Evidence of meeting #105 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

My apologies. I did not see that.

Mr. Chong.

May 1st, 2024 / 5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Before we go to the final vote on the motion as amended, I want to say that we support Ukraine. We don't doubt the Liberal government's support for Ukraine, but that doesn't mean we always agree with every decision the government makes. We think it's worthwhile to examine this matter, so we will support the motion as amended.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Thank you, Mr. Chong.

Now we'll go to the motion.

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Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Is the amendment first?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

No, we're voting on the motion as amended.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

We're going to the motion as amended.

All those in favour?

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Bergeron.

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

Mr. Chair, first, I voted against the motion. Second, I would like to move an amendment.

I would add, between the words “waivers” and “the committee”, the following: “to the sanctions regime against—”

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Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

I have a point of order. That is not allowed. The motion has passed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Mr. Bergeron, I've been advised by the clerk that you cannot do that.

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Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

He could make another motion as long as it's been given due notice, but he can't amend this motion now that it has passed.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Okay.

Yes, Mr. Epp.

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Conservative

Dave Epp Conservative Chatham-Kent—Leamington, ON

If you seek it, I believe you will find unanimous consent for the following: That the motion I submitted on notice to the clerk a day ago regarding the Great Lakes Fishery Commission be moved, be allowed for debate if anyone wishes to debate the motion and, after the debate has collapsed, be adopted on division.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Is there unanimous consent?

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

Omar Alghabra Liberal Mississauga Centre, ON

You need unanimous consent to bring it up without notice.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Epp Conservative Chatham-Kent—Leamington, ON

We need that to bring it to the floor.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

I have a point of order.

If someone would like a suspension of the meeting, they can ask for a suspension, but we have to either suspend the meeting—and we can take quite a lot of time in that suspension—or move on to our work.

I'm not asking for a suspension.

5:50 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

I have a point of order.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Yes, Mr. Bergeron.

5:50 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

Mr. Chair, my discussion with the clerk was very simple.

I don't need to give notice to move a motion as long as it concerns the same topic. You denied me this right. Immediately afterwards, we moved on to another topic. I don't need to give notice to move a motion when we're still talking about the same topic. There has been an abuse of process. I would like to get back to the previous topic.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

What I will say on the point of order is that's what the clerk advised me at the time, Mr. Bergeron. I was just informing you of that. You could have brought it up and we could have discussed it at the time.

5:50 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

Mr. Chair, I had to consult the clerk, and we quickly moved on to another topic. I shouldn't have been denied the opportunity to move a motion in the first place. We were still talking about the same topic. I didn't need to give notice.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Mr. Bergeron, I was just simply informing you of what I had been advised, and then you chose not to pursue it any further.

5:50 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

Mr. Chair, I didn't make that choice. I consulted the clerk. It isn't the same thing.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

If you're consulting, you're not pursuing it anymore at that given juncture. Is that correct?

5:50 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

No. Not at all.