Evidence of meeting #30 for Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was housing.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • Sharon Matthews  Vice-President, Assisted Housing Sector, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
  • Christine Cram  Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Socio-Economic Policy and Regional Operations, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
  • Gina Wilson  Assistant Deputy Minister, Indian Residential Schools Resolution Canada

May 28th, 2008 / 4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Churchill, MB

I have a quick question. It has to do with the off-reserve housing funding and whether there's any accounting for that money. I know there was the $300 million announced, and I have yet to get a response on whether that money is being allocated for use by aboriginal people in housing.

4:05 p.m.

Vice-President, Assisted Housing Sector, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Sharon Matthews

You may be referring to the trust funding that--

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Churchill, MB

No, I'm referring to the off-reserve aboriginal housing fund.

4:05 p.m.

Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Socio-Economic Policy and Regional Operations, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

I think you're referring to the $300 million in the 2006 budget that went out to provinces. So the money did go out to the provinces, and I can--

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Churchill, MB

I know it went out, but I'm wondering how it is you monitor whether it is actually being used for housing and how we can find that information.

4:05 p.m.

Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Socio-Economic Policy and Regional Operations, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

We do have some information. I do have a bit of information on different provinces, in terms of what they've done. Different provinces have handled it differently.

I'll just give you British Columbia as an example. They received $50.9 million, and they transferred it to an off-reserve aboriginal housing trust. On March 1, 2007, they issued a province-wide expression of interest to aboriginal non-profit societies for applications.

So each province has had a different process. I don't personally have the information on all of them, but--

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Churchill, MB

If I can't get it from the province and I can't get it from them, can I just try to get that from your department?

4:05 p.m.

Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Socio-Economic Policy and Regional Operations, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

I'd be prepared to go back. I think we'd have to go to the Department of Finance--

4:05 p.m.

Vice-President, Assisted Housing Sector, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Sharon Matthews

Wasn't it the Department of Finance who was managing the trust?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Churchill, MB

From your department, there's no actual monitoring or criteria in terms of accounting for that?

4:10 p.m.

Vice-President, Assisted Housing Sector, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Sharon Matthews

There's no mandate for CMHC to be monitoring or managing those funds. I believe the same can be said for INAC, so it would be the Department of Finance that you'd have to raise the question with.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Churchill, MB

The Department of Finance would be accountable for that funding. They would require accounting for that funding.

4:10 p.m.

Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Socio-Economic Policy and Regional Operations, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

I suspect that for the trusts that were set up for the transfer of the money from the Department of Finance to those provinces, they would have specified any accountability requirements.

4:10 p.m.

Vice-President, Assisted Housing Sector, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation

Sharon Matthews

I do believe there were some principles and whatnot, but we're just not the right people to answer that question, I'm afraid.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Barry Devolin

Thank you very much.

M. Lemay, six minutes.