Evidence of meeting #39 for Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was estimates.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • Michael Wernick  Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

I just wanted to make sure that Mr. Genest-Jourdain got an answer to his question. Clearly if it's outside the scope of supplementary estimates (A), then we'll have to move on.

Mr. Genest-Jourdain, we'll turn it over to you for the next question with regard to supplementary estimates (A).

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

I need some clarification here. So—

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

Mr. Genest-Jourdain has the floor. We'll turn it over to Mr. Genest-Jourdain for his question.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Jonathan Genest-Jourdain Manicouagan, QC

Obviously, people are trying to play for time, but I have other questions.

Will you admit that reducing social assistance, combined with the lack of investment in education, is a mistake, and will you also recognize that we need to invest more in training, instead of reducing eligibility to the social assistance program?

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

Again, Mr. Genest-Jourdain, you'll have to refer to the vote that you're speaking of with regard to supplementary estimates (A).

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Jonathan Genest-Jourdain Manicouagan, QC

We have just looked into that, Mr. Chair. I have just given you the exact page, page 63. It's all there.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

Mr. Genest-Jourdain, which vote are you specifically speaking about?

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

I have a point of order on this.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

On a point of order, Mrs. Hughes.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

Thank you.

We've indicated that the operational expenditures encompass a variety of things, which is the capacity development for Indian and Inuit and the furnishings of material and equipment, and there's a lot that goes into that amount.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

This isn't a point of order, Ms. Hughes. If Mr. Genest-Jourdain would like to pass on some of his time to you, that's fine, but Mr. Genest-Jourdain should continue with his questions.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Carol Hughes Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON

It was some clarification. It was a point of order.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

That's not a point of order. I'm ruling.

Mr. Genest-Jourdain, we'll continue with your question.

Ms. Sims, on a point of order.

June 6th, 2012 / 4:50 p.m.

NDP

Jinny Sims Newton—North Delta, BC

I'm just trying to seek some clarification, Chair, so please bear with me, because I'm new to this committee.

When I heard the presentation made by the minister...I believe the minister himself opened it up to go beyond the supplementary estimates, which you keep trying to limit the speakers to.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Chris Warkentin

Is there anything in specific terms that you can bring?