Evidence of meeting #4 for Bill C-11 (41st Parliament, 1st Session) in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was radio.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • Bill Skolnik  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
  • Don Conway  President, Pineridge Broadcasting
  • Ian MacKay  President, Re:Sound Music Licensing Company
  • Aline Côté  President, Les Éditions Berger, Association nationale des éditeurs de livres
  • Jean Bouchard  Vice-President and General Manager, Groupe Modulo, Association nationale des éditeurs de livres
  • Cynthia Andrew  Policy Analyst, Ontario Public School Boards Association, Canadian School Boards Association
  • Michèle Clarke  Director, Government Relations and Policy Research, Public Affairs, Association of Canadian Community Colleges
  • Claude Brulé  Dean, Algonquin College, Association of Canadian Community Colleges

10:10 a.m.

President, Pineridge Broadcasting

Don Conway

Ultimately, if you pass this bill, that's what I would have to do, because as I understand the bill, and I am—

February 28th, 2012 / 10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

On a point of order, it's an important clarification that the 30 days is not in the bill; it's actually in the existing act. It's probably helpful to the conversation.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Glenn Thibeault

Thank you, Mr. Lake.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash Davenport, ON

Okay, just a clarification here....

10:10 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Glenn Thibeault

Yes, we'll stop the time. Time is stopped.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash Davenport, ON

In C-11....

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

The 30-day requirement is not in the bill. The 30-day requirement is actually in the act; it was in the act before. The bill doesn't change the 30-day requirement.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash Davenport, ON

I understand that.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

He referenced a couple of times that it was in the bill. I just wanted to clarify that it's not actually in the bill.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

The Chair Glenn Thibeault

Okay. Now we'll start your time again.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash Davenport, ON

Thank you.

What I'm trying to get at here is that substantively nothing.... Your requirement as a broadcaster is to retain a licence from the rights-holders.

10:10 a.m.

President, Pineridge Broadcasting

Don Conway

When I download it the first time I pay that licence. What is now required, in the last several years...I now have to pay multiple times because supposedly I'm making reproductions, and I'm not.

10:15 a.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash Davenport, ON

Actually, the way C-11 reads, in fact you now have a 30-day exemption. So in fact once you pay the licence, you actually have 30 days for free, right?

10:15 a.m.

President, Pineridge Broadcasting

Don Conway

No, I've paid mine for 30 days. Basically I've paid for 30 days.

10:15 a.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash Davenport, ON

No. Actually the way this reads is that when you get the copy from the record companies, you have 30 days essentially to have that music.