Evidence of meeting #21 for Canadian Heritage in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was history.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Meg Beckel  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Museum of Nature
Stuart Murray  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Museum for Human Rights
Mark O'Neill  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Museum of Civilization Corporation
Marie Chapman  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Museum of Immigration at Pier 21
Jean-Marc Blais  Vice-President, Exhibitions and Programs, Canadian Museum of Civilization Corporation

12:35 p.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash NDP Davenport, ON

On this notice of motion?

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Absolutely.

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NDP

Andrew Cash NDP Davenport, ON

A notice of motion, as I understand it—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Mr. Cash, we have your notice of motion, so you have five minutes left.

12:35 p.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash NDP Davenport, ON

Thank you.

I'd like to pass my five minutes over to Madame Boutin-Sweet.

12:35 p.m.

NDP

Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet NDP Hochelaga, QC

I would like to get back to the issue of museums.

I have a background in this field so I have a good understanding of how important museums are. Canada's 150th anniversary is an important event and museums have a very important role to play in celebrating it. It is important to tell people about this country's 150th anniversary.

However, for museums to be able to take part in this event, they would have to continue to exist and not be shut down. Although our topic today is the 150th anniversary, I would like to broaden the question somewhat to address the financial situation museums are in. I think you are in a good position to discuss the matter.

Mr. Calandra had already broached the issue and you explained how museums are funded. However, I would like to know if some of you receive endowment funds or any other types of funds to compensate for the situation. Because these are national museums, a large part of the funding comes from Canadian Heritage, but you still need to find several millions of dollars elsewhere—

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Sorry, Madame Boutin-Sweet, Mr. Calandra has a point of order.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

I know we have a rule of 48 hours on a motion, but I seek unanimous consent to allow the motion to be brought forward and to be debated right now.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Is there unanimous consent for the motion that Mr. Calandra has put forward?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Could we just have a vote on that, please? I'm seeking unanimous consent—just so it's clear—so that the NDP's motion can be debated and considered right now. I'd like a recorded vote.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash NDP Davenport, ON

Point of order.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Mr. Cash.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash NDP Davenport, ON

Just for some clarity, this was a notice of motion. We understand that there's a 48-hour time period. So are you wanting to debate the motion, or the notice of motion? What do you want to do?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

What I am suggesting is that the committee give unanimous consent to dispense of the 48-hour notice and deal with your motion right now in front of this committee. I'm seeking unanimous consent to allow that to happen.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Is there consent for Mr. Calandra's—

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

I have a question, Mr. Chair.

To my understanding, it would be ideal to avoid this for our witnesses. I think this is precious time. They are here to discuss another matter, so I would like it if this was just tabled and then we could go on with the witnesses.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Mr. Simms, then Mr. Calandra.

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Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL

I'm glad it was brought up, because I attempted to bring this up before. However, I think we should have a vote to do this at the end as committee business—that's what we're seeking.

I'd like to do this now, but we can do this after we're finished with the guests here.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

That would be in ten minutes. We do have committee business scheduled for—

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL

Why don't we do the debate and vote at that time? That's what I'm suggesting.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

I have a motion that—

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

Mr. Calandra has asked for unanimous consent that we consider the motion now. Is there consent?

Mr. Cash.

12:40 p.m.

NDP

Andrew Cash NDP Davenport, ON

I want to ask whether this debate is going to be in public or in camera. What's the government side's intention here?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Moore

The debate on the motion would be up to the committee.