Evidence of meeting #50 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was wines.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Hanspeter Stutz  As an Individual
Ivonne Martinez  President, Alberta Liquor Store Association
Rowland Dunning  Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions
Dan Paszkowski  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vintners Association
Harry McWatters  Time Estate Winery, Vintage Consulting Group Inc.
Janice Ruddock  Managing Director, Winery Association of Nova Scotia

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

You have two minutes.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Excellent.

I'm a free market guy. I'm a business person. Why are we not doing this for Crown Royal? Why are we not doing this for whisky, for beer? Why are we not doing this across the country?

Can anybody here, any of the witnesses in front of us, tell us why we're not doing that for all of those other intoxicating substances that Canadians love right across the country, such as maple syrup whisky from Quebec?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

There's about a minute left. Is there someone who'd like to respond to that?

Go ahead, Mr. Dunning.

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

I'm not quite sure what the question is.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Why are we not doing the same thing for other intoxicating liquors?

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

Doing what?

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Freeing them from bondage.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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A voice

Let my liquor go.

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

Add it to the bill. I mean—

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Do you see any—

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

—the distillers and the brewers, I'm sure—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Order.

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

—are watching these debates. If somehow, out of the bill being passed and whatever happens in the provinces, the market opens up for wine, I'm sure you'll be hearing from Spirits Canada and the brewers of Canada very, very quickly.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

In the last two seconds, is there a negative implication that you can see from doing that?

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President, Alberta Liquor Store Association

Ivonne Martinez

Absolutely: underage drinking.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Well, I think we have that order in already. We've already heard some testimony that this is not really an issue, and I can't see it being so, either.

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President, Alberta Liquor Store Association

Ivonne Martinez

For rye or vodka?

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

For wine?

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

Perhaps I can just conclude on it, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Go ahead, but just very briefly.

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

You can go to any liquor store in Ontario and order any product—spirit, wine, or beer—from any place in Canada. It's available. As I said, we had—

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

But you can't order it directly from the source in—

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Executive Director, Canadian Association of Liquor Jurisdictions

Rowland Dunning

No. That would be a direct sale.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

You can't do that.