Evidence of meeting #23 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was skills.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • David McGovern  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and Research Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
  • Alison Hale  Director, Labour Statistics, Statistics Canada
  • René Morissette  Assistant Director, Research, Social Analysis Division, Statistics Canada
  • Amy Huziak  National Representative, Young Workers, Canadian Labour Congress
  • Marsha Josephs  Director, Government Relations, Canadian Youth Business Foundation
  • John Atherton  Director General, Employment Programs and Partnerships, Department of Employment and Social Development
  • Angella MacEwen  Senior Economist, Social and Economic Policy, Canadian Labour Congress
  • Philippe Massé  Senior Director, Economic Policy Directorate, Department of Employment and Social Development

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin Victoria, BC

No, I accept that. But I can't square the circle in my own mind that if the quote is accurate and we're the largest waste of human capital resulting from overqualification among OECD countries, I don't understand how you can square that circle in light of what you've just repeated.

4:15 p.m.

Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and Research Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

David McGovern

I think it's also important to note that the OECD in the past year has released a series of significant documents, a survey called PIAAC, the Outlook document, and others, so to take just a single piece of information out of these major reports...I don't have all of the context for that point.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin Victoria, BC

Well, it certainly doesn't suggest to me that Canada's performing very well, but I haven't got time to continue.

Can I go to Statistics Canada? Do I have time?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair Peggy Nash

You have one minute.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin Victoria, BC

All right.

Does Statistics Canada regularly publish data on the match between workers' skills levels and the required skills level of their jobs? I'm going to the issue that was referred to about overqualification of workers and individuals who are working in jobs for which they're grossly over-skilled or over-educated. I wonder if you could elaborate.

4:15 p.m.

Director, Labour Statistics, Statistics Canada

Alison Hale

Actually, because of the time limit—and we do love to talk about our numbers too much—I didn't get a chance to mention that in April we are producing a study on overqualification among recent university graduates in Canada, and we'll be sure to pass that to the committee once it's published. It's something we do periodically as part of our analysis.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin Victoria, BC

Am I out of time?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair Peggy Nash

You have about 25 seconds.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin Victoria, BC

I want to go to a couple of Stats Canada pages that really disturbed me, and I may be misunderstanding, so I'd like your clarification. On pages 9 and 10 of your report, you show a gross disparity between the wage rates of women and men, and I can't quite understand how it could be so dramatic.

Is that accurate, the five-dollar difference in wage, on average? Or am I misreading it?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair Peggy Nash

Go ahead, very briefly, please.

4:15 p.m.

Assistant Director, Research, Social Analysis Division, Statistics Canada

René Morissette

First of all, it is accurate. However, usually when we look at the wage differences between genders, we standardize for the type of occupation, among other things, that men and women hold. In these charts, we haven't done that exercise. Part of the gender difference is still related to the fact that young women are in high-paying occupations to a lesser extent than men, and that plays a part. If you were to standardize for that, the gender differences would certainly narrow. That's one factor.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair Peggy Nash

Thank you, Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Saxton, you have five minutes.

March 6th, 2014 / 4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton North Vancouver, BC

Thank you, Chair.

My thanks to our witness for being here today for the beginning of this very important study.

I want to say from the outset that our government takes the issue of youth employment very seriously, which is why we've taken significant steps to help young Canadians get proper training and find meaningful employment. In fact, over two million young Canadians have been assisted by our government's programs since 2006 and thanks to these programs, we now have one of the lowest youth unemployment rates in the G-7.

However, we also recognize that as long as young people are looking for work, there's still more work to be done. That's why our recent budget, budget 2014, dedicated over $55 million to internships and over $40 million to help young entrepreneurs get the mentorship, financial support, business advice, and development space that they need to grow their ideas and their start-ups.

My first question is for the Canadian Youth Business Foundation. Ms. Josephs, your organization does great work in empowering young entrepreneurs. How important is our government support for young entrepreneurs?

4:20 p.m.

Director, Government Relations, Canadian Youth Business Foundation

Marsha Josephs

Government support is absolutely important. We know that young entrepreneurs contribute to strengthening our economy. They create jobs for themselves and others. Without the government's support, we would struggle to help more young entrepreneurs to achieve their dreams of opening their own businesses. We're very appreciative of the foresight of the government to commit to continue to help CYBF in helping more young entrepreneurs across Canada.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton North Vancouver, BC

How can we encourage more young Canadians to become entrepreneurs and job creators?