Evidence of meeting #50 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • William V. Baker  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety
  • Doug Nevison  Director, Fiscal Policy Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
  • Ned Franks  Professor Emeritus, Department of Political Studies, Queen's University, As an Individual

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

Minister.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Vic Toews Provencher, MB

I can't add anything beyond what my colleague has already stated.

11 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Chairman, I think you will agree we have had testimony that leading authorities on the subject do not consider the financial advice to be a cabinet confidence after the bill has been tabled in the House of Commons. So I'd like to know, by what justification do these ministers consider that information to be a cabinet confidence? Under whose advice and whose authority are they withholding that information?

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

Mr. Martin, your time is up. I'll give them a very quick chance to answer because I did take some of your time in my conversation.

Very quickly, Minister.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Rob Nicholson Niagara Falls, ON

Again, I don't think anybody would want any cabinet documents tabled or made public. We all have an obligation on that. But I can tell you, Mr. Chair, that the information you have before you with respect to the costing has been presented to this committee in compliance with the Speaker's ruling. I know a great deal of work and effort has gone into this to make this as expansive and informative as possible.

All I would say to the committee is that we can talk about procedures on that, but in terms of the costs of the crime bills, you do have that information before you. I appreciate that it's a lot more than what you got a month ago, but again, this is an expansion and more and more details of this. I trust this will be of great help to the committee in examining the costs of the crime bills.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

Committee, we promised the ministers we would excuse them by 11, so let's do so.

I will suspend, and we will be back in two minutes.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

I would like to start, but I really would like a member of the opposition sitting at the table before we do.

I thought I was reasonably clear with “two minutes”.

Mr. Proulx, will you please represent all of the opposition?

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Hull—Aylmer, QC

I will get the opposition back in.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Harold Albrecht Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Are we in session?

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

We are; I am just waiting for a few members to return.

We have Minister Menzies, the Minister of State for Finance, and we will be asking him questions.

Minister Menzies, do you have an opening statement today?

March 17th, 2011 / 11:10 a.m.

Macleod
Alberta

Conservative

Ted Menzies Minister of State (Finance)

I certainly do, and--

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

Do you think it would be appropriate if we waited for at least one member of the opposition before we started the opening statement?

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Macleod, AB

I guess it's always good to have some member of the opposition.

I see that Mr. Martin has joined us.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Joe Preston

All right.

Minister Menzies, Happy St. Patrick's Day to you and your team. If you have an opening statement, please go ahead.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Macleod, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

As my father, who was born in Belfast, would have said, “Top o' the mornin'.”

It's nice to see you, Chair, dressed in green; very appropriate today.