Evidence of meeting #41 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funding.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mark G. Watters  Chief Financial Officer, House of Commons
Pierre Parent  Chief Human Resources Officer, Parliament of Canada
Stéphan Aubé  Chief Information Officer, House of Commons
Marc Bosc  Deputy Clerk of the House of Commons, House of Commons

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

Andrew Scheer Conservative Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

Okay, $5.5 million is the number we have seen in cost savings.

As those of you who fly regularly know, when you buy an à la carte ticket, you pay the market price, which can fluctuate depending upon when you're able to purchase the ticket, whereas a flight pass locks in a much lower price in advance. Even if it's a last-minute booking, you're not paying the posted rate on a website. You're getting that initial locked-in price, and because of the bulk purchasing by the House of Commons, we get a significant discount.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

That's great to hear.

You mentioned $5.5 million in savings. Is that over a 12-month period, an annual saving, or is it since the time you first started using flight passes?

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Andrew Scheer Conservative Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

That's per fiscal year.

11:45 a.m.

A voice

Wow.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Thank you very much.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Thank you, Mr. Lukiwski.

Mr. Scott, for four minutes, please.

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for being here.

I have a couple of questions.

First, I'm not sure if it's going to be happening this year or if it's already happening, but is there some kind of a plan to begin to integrate the security in the entire precinct between House and Senate? If so, does that have fiscal implications? Will there actually be economies of scale or some kind of efficiencies that are worth noting?

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Andrew Scheer Conservative Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

Yes, and I am glad you asked that. It is something that I personally feel very invested in.

We do have several reports, including one from the Auditor General, who several years ago highlighted it as an area of concern. When you think about it, from Bank Street to the Hall of Honour, you go from the City of Ottawa to the RCMP to the House of Commons on one side of the Hall of Honour to the Senate security on the other side. Those are seams from a security perspective; each transition is viewed as a seam which poses security issues. Then, of course, there's the cost that comes along with that.

There is a move under way. I know I said that last year. If there's a speed below glacial, then we've found it.

11:45 a.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Andrew Scheer Conservative Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

I can say that there is a renewed interest in it. There has been some movement. I don't want to go into too much detail, because some of it is around security, or into how those operational things work, but there will be a savings seen by reducing the redundancy—two separate administrations, two separate protocols, and things like that.

We've also had analysis that shows there will be an improvement in the security aspect as well.

May 29th, 2014 / 11:45 a.m.

NDP

Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON

Thank you very much.

The next question may go through you, Mr. Speaker, but Mr. Watters might be in a better position to answer it.

We had some questions from Mr. Butt about the amount of extra budget that will be needed to have a properly functioning office with respect to higher transparency of MP expenses. It was indicated that a fair chunk of that would be towards personnel.

I'm just wondering, have we gotten to the point where...? Are there any issues around health of employees related to stress due to workload flow in any departments, including in finance? Are we absolutely content that we have the right number of personnel, or are we actually getting to the point of losing efficiencies because of stress issues?

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I'm sorry, but we hear the bells, and without unanimous consent we can't continue.

Mr. Speaker, we thank you for coming today.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Andrew Scheer Conservative Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

Thank you for having me. It's always a pleasure. It was good to see everybody.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

We did get through most of that round, so I'm pretty happy with that. Thank you very much.

I had a couple of questions too, but I guess I'll have to submit them in written form.

We will suspend, and we will return here after the vote.

Now, we are adjourned.