Evidence of meeting #11 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

  • Neil Yeates  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
  • Claudette Deschênes  Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
  • Daniel Paquette  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Chief Financial Officer, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

November 24th, 2011 / 11:50 a.m.

Claudette Deschênes Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

I would just add that we didn't say the last time we were here that we didn't have data. I said that we didn't have data by category. We have data on the number of people who get multiple visas.

Over the years, we've always had this concept of dual intent: you could immigrate, but you could also come temporarily to visit.

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NDP

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

But I've had many constituents time and again get refused for their temporary resident visa. On their letter, or when we call, the reason given is, “Well, they have a permanent resident application in process and we don't think they'll actually leave.” I want to know if that practice is going to change with the multiple-entry—

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Conservative

The Chair David Tilson

To both of you, we can only hear one person at a time.

You're on the floor.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

The issue of dual intent is that when someone comes temporarily but is also wanting to immigrate...do we think that person, if they didn't get accepted for immigration, would go back to their country? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but that concept is there.

On the super visa, we are going to be tracking very closely, and certainly the issue of wanting to immigrate will not be a detraction for being considered for a super visa.

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NDP

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

Okay, thank you.

What steps are you going to take to let people know that they can apply for our super visa?

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Conservative

Jason Kenney Calgary Southeast, AB

We made a high-profile announcement, after which I did over 60 exclusive interviews in ethnocultural media. We will be posting all of the relevant information on the CIC website by December 1, when the program begins.

So I think people are highly aware of this, and I'm also sure that members of the immigration industry of consultants and lawyers will be advising their current and potential clients quite actively about this.

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Conservative

The Chair David Tilson

Thank you.

Ms. James.

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Conservative

Roxanne James Scarborough Centre, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and welcome back, Minister Kenney and departmental officials.

I wanted to touch base on something Don Davies said about one of our witnesses indicating that our labour shortages will have to be dealt with 100% through immigration. I just want to touch base on that, because we've actually had numerous witnesses come in here and say that's not the case—

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NDP

Don Davies Vancouver Kingsway, BC

On a point of order, Mr. Chairman.

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Conservative

The Chair David Tilson

A point of order. Stop the clock.

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NDP

Don Davies Vancouver Kingsway, BC

People are permitted to put questions, but if they're going to quote another committee member, it has to be accurate. I never said that any witness said that the labour shortages have to be dealt with 100% by immigration.

If my honourable friend checks the record, she'll find that was never stated.

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Conservative

The Chair David Tilson

All right, let's try to get along.

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Conservative

Roxanne James Scarborough Centre, ON

My mistake. I thought—

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Conservative

The Chair David Tilson

No, it may or may not be your mistake. It's a debate, and we're not into debate here, so you may proceed.

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Conservative

Roxanne James Scarborough Centre, ON

Sorry, I thought he indicated that one particular witness had said that. My mistake if that's not the case.

I wanted to touch base on that, because numerous witnesses actually did come in and say that's not the particular case, that we in fact should look internally within Canada to the people who are already here, such as our youth, maybe the unemployed, and also within our aboriginal community. I just wanted to confirm that this is in fact what you think as well, Minister Kenney.