Evidence of meeting #41 for Subcommittee on International Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was maybe.

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1:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

This is the 41st meeting of the Subcommittee on International Human Rights of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development.

Before we turn to our witnesses, I have a few organizational matters to take care of. The first one is in regard to next Tuesday's meeting. I have spoken to a few of the members of the committee, not all, to suggest that next Tuesday we invite a visiting minister. The Pakistani Minister of Minorities is in Canada and is willing to attend as a witness, if we are willing to have him. That is a suggestion from me. You don't have to accept it, but I'll just ask.

Is that acceptable to the subcommittee?

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Davenport, ON

Would the Pakistani Minister of Minorities be speaking on our study? We are doing a study that includes Pakistan.

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

Only in relation to his own country, of course, but yes.

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Liberal

Mario Silva Davenport, ON

On the issue of human rights.

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

Yes, that's right.

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Liberal

Mario Silva Davenport, ON

He's not going to be speaking about minority rights and conditions that we have?

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

Yes, that's right.

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Liberal

Mario Silva Davenport, ON

Okay, fine.

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

Is there consensus?

Madame, c'est bon?

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Bloc

Johanne Deschamps Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Yes, Mr. Chair. This is agreeable to me but unanimous consent should perhaps be sought in order to set aside some time for a discussion of our future business. I feel that things are going a bit too fast and there may be some confusion about the issues to be discussed next.

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

Does everybody agree that we should set aside some time to do that?

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Conservative

David Sweet Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Are you talking about the next meeting?

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

I've suggested the idea of actually setting aside a separate time outside our normal schedule to do that. You may recall I mentioned that before the Christmas break. I could actually set aside a meeting for that, if we chose.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

No, it was just a concern that it would take up time when the minister from Pakistan is here, but if it's a separate meeting, I'm fine with that.

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Conservative

The Chair Scott Reid

Let's make sure. I'll ask. Is there agreement to have a separate meeting? We would try to find a time that's convenient for everybody. Is everybody cool with that? Okay. So we'll do that. I'll get back to all of you and suggest a time.

The next thing I want to bring up very briefly is that Mr. Devolin, who is sitting with us today, has a motion that is coming before the House. It's scheduled to come shortly. It's on the subject of North Korean refugees. I'm going to ask the clerk to circulate it so that you can all take a look at it. It's just for your advice.

Finally, our analyst has prepared some information regarding the situation with sexual minorities in Uganda, in particular regarding the recent murder of Mr. David Kato in Uganda. That will also be circulated. I'm not inviting discussion on that one; I'm just alerting you that it will be passed around. It is something that is of relevance to what the committee is doing right now.

That business being dealt with, I want to turn to today's witnesses. We have Dr. Norbert Vollertsen and Mr. Kyung B. Lee. Ms. Kim is back again today. Today the two witnesses will be Dr. Vollertsen and Mr. Lee.

The schedule they've put forward is that Dr. Vollertsen will speak first for 15 minutes on the subject of induced starvation. After that, Mr. Lee will speak. He has a petition for parliamentary resolutions.

Let's begin with Dr. Vollertsen, please.