Evidence of meeting #45 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-36.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Mandelcorn  Regional Director, Criminal Lawyers' Association
Sharon Rosenfeldt  Victims of Violence
Kim Pate  Executive Director, Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

We want to move this forward because we have two other short items to deal with.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Several of us sit on both committees. The Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security is returning from Europe, I don't know exactly when. Is it on Friday or Saturday?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

All right. That doesn't change the fact that at steering committee we set a date of November 30.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

We solved the problem.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Okay.

Do we have a mover?

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

I so move.

(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

There are two other items. We're moving on to a review of Bill C-52. It's tentatively scheduled for November 16, which is the first meeting after the break. I want to make sure everybody knows we need a list of witnesses on Bill C-52. You have your formal notice. Please submit to us the list of witnesses you'd like to hear on Bill C-52, which is the white collar crime legislation.

Since we'll be moving to clause-by-clause on Bill C-36 some time in the very near future, depending on the outcome of the motion, we'd like to have your amendments as soon as possible.

It's the same thing for Bill C-232. We want to move toward clause-by-clause on that as well, so if you have amendments to that bill please get them to the clerk as soon as possible.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

I'm sorry...?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

The two bills we want to move on to clause-by-clause, if we can get the amendments, are Bill C-36 and Bill C-232.

Go ahead, Monsieur Lemay.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Unless I am mistaken, we will begin our study of Bill C-52 on November 16.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Yes.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

That depends. Should we not first finish studying Bill C-36?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

That is correct.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Okay. I wanted to be sure of that.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

I think I qualified my comments. At some time in the near future we want to move to clause-by-clause, depending on the outcome of the motion before us.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Okay. I understand.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

All right, thank you. I've done my work in giving you that notice.

Now we'll move to Mr. Moore's motion. Mr. Moore, you're laying that motion on the table, is that correct?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB

Yes, thanks, Chair.

The motion is pretty easy to understand. We would complete clause-by-clause on Bill C-36 on Wednesday. You've mentioned Bill C-52. We have another bill before our committee and other work we'd like to get moving on. I think today's our third day of testimony on Bill C-36. That's why I would like to see us with a concrete plan to complete Bill C-36. The nature of my motion would be to give us a definitive date on which we're going to wrap up Bill C-36, and that date, in my view, should be Wednesday.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Can I ask one question?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Yes, you may.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Do you mean by this motion that we just do clause-by-clause at the meeting on November 4 or that we do other things? Is the spirit of the motion to finish clause-by-clause sometime on Wednesday, November 4?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB

We are already scheduled to do clause-by-clause, I think, on Bill C-232.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Let me tell you what is preliminarily scheduled for our next meeting. We have two more witnesses on Bill C-36, Allan Manson and the Correctional Service of Canada, which will provide us with some statistics. Then we were going to go to clause-by-clause on Bill C-36 and Bill C-232. I don't expect that Bill C-232 will take much time. Is the government proposing any amendments to Bill C-232?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB

No.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

As there are no amendments, I expect we'll be considering that. There may be some amendments on Bill C-36, but it's reasonable to expect, if in fact those are the only two witnesses we have next meeting, that we'll be able to get all the clause-by-clause done on those two bills.