Evidence of meeting #47 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was keep.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

No, we haven't.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

We see this as an attempt by your party, should they ever be in a position to influence the Parliament so as to bring the gun registry back...you will do that. So we're not going to put this up for you in order to allow you to do that.

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Do you agree, though, that the ledger never was used to create the gun registry? That was not what was used for the gun registry. Every witness has said so. How come keeping these things would recreate the gun registry?

And to correct the minister, officially, our party never said that we would recreate a gun registry. I don't know where you take that. I can say it right here, right now.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

Well, I've heard it on the news. It has been reported, but I know—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Well, Minister, read better.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

I know that media is never accurate—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Read better.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

—but I haven't....

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Anyway—

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

It leads me also to believe that it'd be curious—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Anyway, answer the question.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Let him answer the question, then, Ms. Boivin.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

It would be curious, given the sanctions you've made against members who have voted against keeping the long-gun registry. The sanctions you placed only indicate one thing to me: that you are in fact.... The reports I have read that you are going to bring back the long-gun registry are very clear.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Voting against something is one thing, Minister. Voting to get another one started from scratch is another thing. So we won't fabulate there.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Madam—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

My time is up...?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Yes, your time is up. Thank you, Madam Boivin.

Now—

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Can I have one moment of Mr. Aspin's time? Then I'll turn it over to Mr. Aspin.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Okay.

Ms. Hoeppner, please.

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Aspin, for giving me a moment.

I just wanted to clarify the reason that I mentioned communists as being part of the NDP party is that Mathieu Ravignat ran for the...[Inaudible—Editor]...Communist Party—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Point of order; that's not even in order with the meeting—

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Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Thank you very much, Mr. Aspin.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Mr. Aspin, please.

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Conservative

Jay Aspin Conservative Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON

I would just like to say that, on the record, Thomas Mulcair came out and said that he would bring the registry back, so I don't know what we're hearing right now.

At any rate, I'd just like to say that there are a lot of socialists, a lot of free enterprisers, and a lot of communists in northern Ontario, but they're all united on one thing, Mr. Minister. This is the most popular legislation—and I'm speaking about Bill C-19—that probably was ever passed for the residents of northern Ontario, so on behalf of the residents of northern Ontario, thank you very much for leading that legislation.

We know as well that there's a lot of pushback on this. The Ontario premier has not been exactly cooperative. Would it be accurate to say that actions such as these of the CFOs like Mr. Wyatt forced you, really, to act on behalf of law-abiding Canadian gun owners in terms of further regulations introduced?