Evidence of meeting #37 for Status of Women in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was youth.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Nancy Southern  President and Chief Executive Officer, ATCO Group
Elyse Allan  President and Chief Executive Officer, GE Canada
Bertha Mo  Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization
Ashley Julian  Member, Youth Council, Assembly of First Nations

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

Yes, or 10 to 12 times....

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

How many new people do you help a year?

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

I can't tell you that. I can only tell you how many new people the counselling program helps per year.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

How many new people does the counselling program...?

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

That's about 500.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

How many of them do you charge?

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

Ninety-five percent of our clients cannot pay, so 5% or less.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Okay, you charge 5%.

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

Yes, it's 5% or less.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

I guess—

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

Can I tell you, and let's not go into the details of the—

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Well, I'm fascinated with the details.

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

I'll tell you about Ontario.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

I'm here to learn about the program. We actually have a mandate for this committee, and it's not about Ontario. It's actually about helping young women to achieve economically. That's our mandate, so I'm very interested in what you have to say about how you help young women to achieve in this economic environment. And as I said, when we help immigrants or refugees to succeed, it helps us all. That is what the country has been built on.

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

I agree, absolutely.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

That is what we have to focus the comments on.

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

Counselling is considered health in Ontario, and that's provincial.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

It is funded with a 6% increase annually by the federal government, I might add, so we consider it holistically. We're here to help all people, and we don't want to think in blocks.

To get the 95% of people helped for nothing, we have to charge the health system to get a referral. Does this clinical supervisor need a referral?

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

No, no....

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Because it says right here on your brochure, Madam, “To make an appointment or for a referral, contact: Carmen Gloria...” and she's an M.Ed., OACCPP.

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Manager, Counselling Program, Ottawa Community Immigrant Services Organization

Bertha Mo

Yes, that's a master's in counselling. She's a certified clinical counsellor.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Marie-Claude Morin

Your time is up, Ms. Bateman.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Oh, too bad!

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NDP

The Chair NDP Marie-Claude Morin

If you have any truly specific questions you would like to address with the witness, you could always discuss them at the end of the committee meeting.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Yes, thank you. May the committee request some details?