House of Commons Hansard #109 of the 35th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was justice.

Topics

Canadian Airlines
Statements By Members

2:05 p.m.

Reform

Diane Ablonczy Calgary North, AB

Mr. Speaker, why is it that Canadians are forced to put up with the elites of this country deciding what is good for us? We saw it when the Tories brought in the GST; people we elected to represent us said: "We don't care about your objections. This is good for you and we are voting for it".

This Prime Minister has followed that elitist tradition. For example, he intends to grant one of our provinces distinct society status even though that would go against the wishes of the majority of Canadians.

Now in the case of Canadian Airlines we have some of the union elites taking hefty dues from workers, then arrogantly telling them that workers are not capable of deciding what is in their own best interest. The CAW and CUPE members of Canadian Airlines should be allowed to decide for themselves whether the restructuring plan is good for them and their families.

The old way of thinking is to have elites tell us what is good for us. The new way of thinking, the Reform way of thinking, is to give Canadians more say, be it in the union halls or in the Parliament of Canada.

Housing
Statements By Members

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pat O'Brien London—Middlesex, ON

Mr. Speaker, co-op housing in Canada has a long and successful history. This type of housing has given hundreds of thousands of Canadian families their only realistic opportunity to buy and own their own home. In the city of London and in my riding of London-Middle-

sex, co-op housing is the best solution to the housing needs of many of my constituents.

For many years the federal Government of Canada has played a vital leadership role in ensuring this important housing option is available to Canadians. As the provinces of Canada seek to assume the lead role in the field of housing, it is absolutely necessary that the federal government retain some involvement. My constituents feel that consistent and acceptable national standards in co-op housing will only be assured if the federal government maintains a presence in this vital field.

The irresponsible attacks on the health care system by the governments of Alberta and Ontario have caused serious concerns that the next victim of the right wing slashers will be co-op housing. This government must never let that happen.

Aids
Statements By Members

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jean Payne St. John's West, NL

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to remind the House that Sunday, December 1 is World AIDS Day.

It is my hope and also that of all my colleagues in this House that World AIDS Day will further our awareness of AIDS. I hope in particular that it will spur our empathy and support for those suffering from this terrible disease.

I applaud the government's efforts in promoting groundbreaking research through its national AIDS strategy. With the assistance of this government initiative, drugs such as lamivudine, or 3TC, have benefited those who suffer from HIV.

I ask that our government continue its support for this cause and that it continue to engage in a search for therapy, treatment and indeed a cure for HIV.

Elliot Lake
Statements By Members

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

Brent St. Denis Algoma, ON

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak about the great things that are happening in Elliot Lake in my northern Ontario riding of Algoma. Known as the jewel in the wilderness, Elliot Lake has undergone an amazing transformation in the past few years, moving from a city dependent on uranium mining to one with a diverse economy, a growing population and a renewed sense of optimism.

Innovative efforts like the ongoing mine decommissioning research and Elliot Lake's retirement living program, which has attracted thousands of new residents to the area, have heralded the dawn of a new day for Elliot Lake.

Due to focused and concerted efforts on the part of Mayor George Farkouh, Elliot Lake city council and other community leaders, a number of promising economic diversification initiatives have been launched which should attract new and promising enterprises to the area.

We must build upon the successes to date to ensure this positive trend continues. I call upon both levels of government and the mining companies which benefited for so many years from operations in Elliot Lake to continue their commitment to work with the community to reach its goal of long term economic stability.

Young Consumers
Statements By Members

2:10 p.m.

Bloc

Maud Debien Laval East, QC

Mr. Speaker, teachers, parents and a number of stakeholders met in Ottawa this week to attend a conference on the children of Canada as the future of this country. In doing so, these people want to reiterate their commitment to the children and young people of Quebec and Canada and promote ways to create a better environment for their development.

At the same time, an entirely different event is taking place in Toronto, which also affects children. I am referring to the Canadian conference on young people as consumers. A major objective of this conference is to help companies sell their products to young people.

The Bloc Quebecois agrees with the position taken by teachers and parents who object to the philosophy behind this conference.

We condemn this marketing strategy which is targeted to vulnerable children. We cannot let all the values of our society be subordinated to the sole concept of profit.

Justice
Statements By Members

2:10 p.m.

Reform

Randy White Fraser Valley West, BC

Mr. Speaker, a young girl in my riding was repeatedly sexually assaulted for 90 minutes in a car by Darren Adam Ursel. The terrible things this animal did to her will not be spoken of by me.

I do want to spend some time telling Canadians the disgraceful way Judge Harry Boyle handled the case. Judge Boyle sentenced Ursel to two years less a day conditional sentence, no jail time, and three years probation.

Judge Boyle sent some clear messages to criminals: in rape cases the first one is free; in sexual attacks female victims are no better than the criminals and we should feel sorry for the criminals, not the victims.

Judge Boyle said that Ursel had no criminal record, was remorseful and was trying to deal with the situation.

Darren Adam Ursel is on the streets in our community today. Women should be aware that Judge Harry Boyle put him there.

Justice
Statements By Members

2:10 p.m.

The Speaker

Colleagues, I am always loath to interfere in statements by members, but we should be very careful not to directly attack the character of any of our judges and we were coming very close in that statement.

Hon. Member For Rosemont
Statements By Members

November 28th, 1996 / 2:10 p.m.

Liberal

Eleni Bakopanos Saint-Denis, QC

Mr. Speaker, the Bloc member for Rosemont used his parliamentary privileges for partisan and unauthorized purposes, that is to support separatist candidates in an election.

He sent 500 letters, at the expense of the House of Commons, to separatist sympathizers in his riding, and even to a few constituents in my riding of Saint-Denis. In these letters, the member for Rosemont invited people to support the candidacy of two well-known separatist militants for the board of directors of a local community service centre, the CLSC La Petite Patrie.

He is not the first Bloc member to do this. His colleague from Laurier-Sainte-Marie also used public funds to promote his wife's candidacy during school elections.

Bloc members can attempt to circumvent all the laws and regulations they want, they will not convince Quebecers of the soundness of their separatist project by stacking boards of directors.

Investments
Statements By Members

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

Bernard Patry Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Mr. Speaker, yesterday, the Japanese federation of economic organizations, which made a fact-finding trip to Canada this past September, submitted its report to our Prime Minister.

Let me quote some excerpts from this document. "Following our visit, we now wish to inform our business people of the favourable economic conditions they may find if they invest in Canada. Canada never provided a more conducive environment for Japanese investments".

Then, in reference to Quebec's political context, the federation said: "The Quebec issue is only a slight concern to us. That being said, we may be hesitant to invest in that province".

Generally speaking, we are very pleased with the report. We only hope that the Government of Quebec will put an end to the uncertainty generated by its separatist project, so that Quebec can also benefit from the investments that the Japanese are about to make in Canada.

Canadian Airlines
Oral Question Period

2:15 p.m.

Roberval
Québec

Bloc

Michel Gauthier Leader of the Opposition

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Transport made a last minute offer yesterday evening to save Canadian Airlines from financial disaster. He is apparently prepared to provide a rebate on fuel taxes.

My question is for the Minister of Finance. Could the Minister of Finance tell us whether the jet fuel tax rebate the Minister of Transport refers to is just for companies in financial difficulty, as we first learned?

Canadian Airlines
Oral Question Period

2:15 p.m.

Hamilton West
Ontario

Liberal

Stan Keyes Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Transport

Mr. Speaker, this gives me the opportunity to announce that the government has remained consistent with its message that there will be no bailout of Canadian Airlines. The government has come forward with a tax rebate program on fuel for the aviation industry. It will allow carriers which have significant losses over a number of years to claim rebates against aviation fuel taxes.

Canadian Airlines
Oral Question Period

2:15 p.m.

Roberval
Québec

Bloc

Michel Gauthier Leader of the Opposition

Mr. Speaker, the process is a rather odd one. Usually, the Minister of Finance announces reductions or increases in taxes. Things seem, shall I say, a bit in disarray in the government. It was much the same thing in the case of cigarettes and the Minister of Health, until the Minister of Finance set him straight. Perhaps he will have to set his colleague in transport straight. I nevertheless have a question for the Minister of Finance.

Given how easy it is for a company to post a deficit using certain accounting practices, would the Minister of Finance not agree that a program like this, intended solely for companies that show an operating deficit, might encourage all Canadian airlines to show a deficit through the use of certain accounting tricks in order to benefit from a substantial reduction in fuel tax too? Does this measure make any sense?

Canadian Airlines
Oral Question Period

2:15 p.m.

Hamilton West
Ontario

Liberal

Stan Keyes Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Transport

Mr. Speaker, I will first address the subject of procedure that the hon. member raised. When the Minister of Transport is busy doing his job across the country, and in this case in British Columbia facilitating discussions on all sides in the Canadian Airlines dilemma, then it falls to the duty of the parliamentary secretary to answer the questions in the House of Commons and I have the privilege to do that.

On the issue of substance in the hon. member's question, it is important to understand that there are still some details to be worked out on the aviation fuel tax rebate. Quite frankly that rebate will only apply if certain conditions are met.

As we have stressed day after day for the last month, there will be no bailout from the federal government for Canadian Airlines. The conditions are that the British Columbia government and the Alberta government come on board. Just yesterday the Minister of Transport congratulated Premier Ralph Klein for coming on board on that restructuring plan. Of course the Canadian Airlines family, that is the company and the union membership have to come on board. That entails all six unions. Finally, American Airlines and the creditors to the airline also have to be part of the restructuring package.

Canadian Airlines
Oral Question Period

2:15 p.m.

Roberval
Québec

Bloc

Michel Gauthier Leader of the Opposition

Mr. Speaker, it is absolutely incredible that companies showing a deficit will enjoy a partial reduction in taxes. Is this not encouraging companies to show a year end deficit, to show they are in the red, so they can enjoy the government's generosity?

Would the Minister of Finance not agree that this makes no sense and that the solution for the airlines has to be much more thought out, much more credible-one that could resolve the problem and not create perhaps another ten more?

Canadian Airlines
Oral Question Period

2:20 p.m.

Hamilton West
Ontario

Liberal

Stan Keyes Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Transport

Mr. Speaker, this government believes that our two national airlines are of major national significance and importance. Quite frankly, they are equal.

Maybe I could put it into a better perspective for the leader of the Bloc. Most of us in the House have children. I have two daughters and I consider both of them to be equal, but they have individual and different needs.

In this situation, I find the questions from the opposition member rather hypocritical because quite frankly they have distinct needs.