House of Commons Hansard #124 of the 36th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was c-20.

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President Of South Africa
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

The Speaker

Now we will proceed with wonderful Wednesday.

President Of South Africa
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Nevertheless, Mr. Speaker, my question is harmless enough.

As all members of Parliament already know, the President of South Africa is arriving today for an official visit. I would like to know what Canada intends to do to mark the exceptional contribution made by Mr. Mandela to equality and democracy.

President Of South Africa
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Edmonton Southeast
Alberta

Liberal

David Kilgour Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)

Mr. Speaker, President Mandela's struggle for human rights and the dignity of national reconciliation in his country remains a source of inspiration for Canadians.

In welcoming Mr. Mandela to our country and bestowing on him the Order of Canada, Canadians will have an opportunity to recognize the exceptional importance of his work and his devotion to human rights and to the well-being of South Africans and of citizens the world over.

Tomorrow, President Mandela will address Parliament.

We will all have the opportunity to hear one of the democratic giants of 20th century.

Canada Pension Plan
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Reform

Diane Ablonczy Calgary—Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Speaker, yesterday the finance minister, when asked what he knew about the firing of Canada's chief actuary, said he was “informed afterwards”. That is not much of an answer since all of Canada eventually found out.

Will the minister tell us if he knew before August 25, 1998, that the chief actuary was to be fired? Yes or no.

Canada Pension Plan
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Paul Martin LaSalle—Émard, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have already answered that question, but I will do it again for the benefit of the member. I am often informed of management problems in the department except that in the case of people who report to me I do not make such decisions.

I was informed in general terms some months earlier that the superintendent had difficulties with Mr. Dussault over management issues. On the weekend of August 22 I was informed by the department that the superintendent intended to confront Mr. Dussault about these issues. Three days later at a previously scheduled meeting the superintendent informed me that he had asked for Mr. Dussault's resignation the previous day. That was the first time I had heard of that. Let me be clear—

Canada Pension Plan
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

The Speaker

The hon. member for Calgary—Nose Hill.

Canada Pension Plan
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Reform

Diane Ablonczy Calgary—Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Speaker, with respect, I think this is a very important issue for Canadians. We need to know what the finance minister knew and when he knew it.

He was a seven year veteran in one of the top posts in this bureaucracy who was protecting Canadians' interests in an independent way. Just weeks before his major report was due he was suddenly out the door.

This raises real suspicions in the mind of any reasonable Canadian, so I would like the finance minister to continue to inform the House fully about the circumstances of his firing.

Canada Pension Plan
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

LaSalle—Émard
Québec

Liberal

Paul Martin Minister of Finance

Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to do so. I did not give an opinion. I was not asked for an opinion and I would not have given an opinion had I been asked.

Human resources management issues are the exclusive domain of the professional managers within the public service. I do not make those. Mr. Dussault reports to the Superintendent of Financial Institutions.

Mr. Speaker, in Canada we have separated politics from the administration of the public service, so consider carefully what the Reform Party is saying. It is suggesting that politicians should influence personnel decisions within the public service. That would lead to the politicization of the public service, and I will not do that.

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

September 23rd, 1998 / 2:45 p.m.

NDP

Svend Robinson Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Mr. Speaker, we wish the Prime Minister would avoid the politicization of the RCMP in the same way.

Canadians were appalled to learn that when our foreign minister met with Indonesia's foreign minister before APEC last year he apologized to him for the anti-Suharto poster campaign in Canada and attacked the East Timor alert network.

Will the Prime Minister now apologize to all Canadians for this disgusting sucking up to a third world dictator all in the name of promoting—

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

The Speaker

Colleagues, I would ask all of you to be a bit more judicious in your choice of words.

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, I believe members are going a bit far in their accusations based on no facts at all, especially making a statement like that, which a veteran of the House of Commons for many years and an extremely respected person, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, denied yesterday.

It is a shame to see the member making that accusation, just to be sure he will be on TV tonight.

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

NDP

Svend Robinson Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Mr. Speaker, the document of the ambassador speaks for itself.

We have now learned that the RCMP planted a spy in the student group APEC Alert before the APEC summit. Will the Prime Minister explain to Canadians why the RCMP infiltrated this peaceful, non-violent group, using the kind of tactics that Suharto uses instead Canadian democratic values?

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Fredericton
New Brunswick

Liberal

Andy Scott Solicitor General of Canada

Mr. Speaker, I know the hon. member is aware of the role of the public complaints commission. I know the hon. member is aware that these issues are being investigated. I know he is aware that if I were to express an opinion on this it would be called political influence on my part, and I will not have it.

Apec Summit
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Diane St-Jacques Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Prime Minister.

Suharto's bodyguards needed the approval of the Minister of Immigration to enter Canada. Once they got here, they threatened to shoot Canadians.

Why did the Prime Minister not expel them from the country?