House of Commons Hansard #45 of the 36th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was money.

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Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

2:40 p.m.

Reform

Jason Kenney Calgary Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Human Resources Development is in denial.

Earlier today she admitted that on November 17 she discovered the reality of the audit that showed the huge waste in her department. However, on December 16 in this place she said “No moneys flowed until the appropriate approvals were in place”.

Why the contradiction? Why did the minister stand in her place and misrepresent the facts? Why did she not tell the truth?

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

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Brant
Ontario

Liberal

Jane Stewart Minister of Human Resources Development

Mr. Speaker, there is no contradiction. If the hon. member would put it in the context of the questions asked, he would see that the questions from his own party were in reference to specific projects.

I stand by my words in the House.

Human Resources Development
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Reform

Jason Kenney Calgary Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, weasel words will not save this minister from accountability. Speaking of which, in 1991 the Prime Minister said “When we form the government, every minister in the cabinet will have to take full responsibility for what is going on in his department”. He said “If there is any bungling in the department, the minister will have to take responsibility”.

Why has the Prime Minister broken his word? Why has he not held the human resources minister responsible for the bungling in her department and for misleading the House? Why was the minister—

Human Resources Development
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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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The Speaker

Order, please. I ask hon. members to please not use the word misleading. I find the question out of order. If the minister wants to answer it, she may.

Human Resources Development
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Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, my ministers and I always take responsibility and that is exactly what we are doing at this time. The auditor general is working with senior bureaucrats of the department to make sure that the audit is done professionally. And that is exactly what is happening.

There were 37 cases where, in the mind of the auditors, there were some difficult problems. So far, out of $12 million, they have identified $251.50 in overpayments and we will collect it back.

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Suzanne Tremblay Rimouski—Mitis, QC

Mr. Speaker, I think the Prime Minister's credibility would improve if he were to play a different tape.

Why would we believe that the problem is fixed and that it boils down to $200,000 and change, when there are at least 30,000 cases to be examined? At least 80% of the 459 cases already looked at were problematic.

The Prime Minister should change tapes and tell us what is really going on in this department.

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

2:45 p.m.

Brant
Ontario

Liberal

Jane Stewart Minister of Human Resources Development

Mr. Speaker, part of the strength of our program is that we will be reporting to Canadians on a quarterly basis on the information that we receive on implementing the program and on the results which that program is going to have.

I am going to be at committee tomorrow. We will be talking about the results to date. I will be before Canadians on a quarterly basis talking about the results as we continue.

This is an open process and we are going to fix the problem.

Gasoline Prices
Oral Question Period

February 9th, 2000 / 2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Guy St-Julien Abitibi, QC

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Industry.

For several weeks now, consumers and truckers have been angered by the price of gasoline at the pumps, of diesel and of heating oil in Canada and in Quebec.

Consumers are right and want to know why the price of gasoline is continuing to climb and why governments are doing nothing about it.

Gasoline Prices
Oral Question Period

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Ottawa South
Ontario

Liberal

John Manley Minister of Industry

Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to say that the member is right to raise an issue that is very important to him—

Gasoline Prices
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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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The Speaker

Order, please.

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Liberal

John Manley Ottawa South, ON

This does not seem to be an important issue for Reform Party members, Mr. Speaker.

First, I would say that, if there is a problem at the retail level, it is up to provincial governments to take action. Second, I have read the media reports from his riding, which say that diesel prices have jumped from 42 cents a litre to 78 cents a litre.

I am sure that the Minister of Natural Resources would agree with me that an explanation is in order and I would like—

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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The Speaker

Order, please.