House of Commons Hansard #122 of the 36th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was animals.

Topics

Taxation
Oral Question Period

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Saint-Maurice, QC

I would like to say that some are very much in favour of reform in the House. In 1993 the Leader of the Opposition chaired the Special Select Committee on Parliamentary Reform in Alberta—

Taxation
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The Speaker

Order, please. The hon. member for Edmonton North.

Taxation
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2:20 p.m.

Reform

Deborah Grey Edmonton North, AB

Mr. Speaker, I hear echoes in the back of the Chamber from the hon. member to York South—Weston.

Let us look at hepatitis C. Let us look at child pornography. Let us look at the GST. There is a long list of what is—

Taxation
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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Taxation
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The Speaker

Order, please. The hon. member for Edmonton North.

Taxation
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Reform

Deborah Grey Edmonton North, AB

It is noisy, Mr. Speaker. Let us look at hepatitis C. Let us look at child pornography. Let us look at the GST and the pathetic record of the government when these issues have come on the floor of the House of Commons in the past.

The Prime Minister has forced his backbenchers to vote his way, even when it meant facing their constituents and themselves in shame. The vote is tonight. What will it be? Freedom or shame?

Taxation
Oral Question Period

2:20 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, some are for reform of the institution. The chairman of the committee in Alberta in 1993 recommended this. Listen to this. Perhaps we should have this here. He recommended that committees should not be allowed to issue minority reports.

In the House last week he was challenged by the Minister of Finance to permit his party to vote for the amendment of the hon. member for Pickering—Ajax—Uxbridge and he did not give freedom to his members to vote for this motion.

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

September 26th, 2000 / 2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Gilles Duceppe Laurier—Sainte-Marie, QC

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Justice has said 17 times in this House that her young offenders bill guaranteed the flexibility needed to enable Quebec to act on its choices.

Does she still maintain that her bill has the flexibility to enable Quebec to continue operating as it has done in the past?

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:20 p.m.

Edmonton West
Alberta

Liberal

Anne McLellan Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada

Yes, Mr. Speaker, in fact I do.

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Gilles Duceppe Laurier—Sainte-Marie, QC

Mr. Speaker, if the minister's claims are true, how does she explain the fact that she had to amend clause 60.1 of the bill with respect to crimes of violence for young people aged 14 or 15 other than to give Quebec greater latitude?

In other words, will she admit that without this amendment Quebec would not have the flexibility it needs to apply the law in accordance with its own objectives? She had to amend it because there was no flexibility. She ought to do likewise with the rest.

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:25 p.m.

Edmonton West
Alberta

Liberal

Anne McLellan Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada

Mr. Speaker, the government has listened to the many witnesses who appeared before the committee in relation to Bill C-3.

In response to that we introduced a number of amendments. Let me reassure the hon. leader of the third party that those amendments have three purposes: to decrease complexity in the legislation, to increase clarity, and to increase flexibility to all provinces and territories that choose to use it.

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:25 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Bellehumeur Berthier—Montcalm, QC

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Justice continues, as always, to claim that her bill allows Quebec all possible flexibility to continue to apply the Young Offenders Act.

If this is true, why does the minister not agree to include a real right to opt out in her Bill C-3, so as to allow Quebec to continue to apply the Young Offenders Act, rather than absolutely forcing Quebec to use the repressive approach of Bill C-3?

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:25 p.m.

Edmonton West
Alberta

Liberal

Anne McLellan Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada

Mr. Speaker, because in fact that which the hon. member suggested is not necessary. Within Bill C-3 there is all necessary flexibility for the province of Quebec to continue to deal with youth justice issues in the way it does presently.

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:25 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Bellehumeur Berthier—Montcalm, QC

Mr. Speaker, no one in Quebec shares the minister's opinion on this.

How can she maintain a position which makes it impossible to solve the young offender problem in less than 30 minutes in this Chamber, particularly when she is being asked to put down in writing, in black and white, as part of her Bill C-3, what she has been telling us here in the House for the past 28 months, and what she has repeated 17 times in response to a question asked of her in this House?

Young Offenders Act
Oral Question Period

2:25 p.m.

Edmonton West
Alberta

Liberal

Anne McLellan Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada

Mr. Speaker, in fact our youth justice legislation applies in all provinces and territories. As I have said before, there is sufficient flexibility in the legislation to ensure that the province of Quebec can continue to do that which it is presently doing in relation to youth justice.