House of Commons Hansard #68 of the 37th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was public.

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National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, we want to have a helicopter at the best possible price that can do the job.

There are different operations around the world by different countries and they do not all have only one type of helicopter. That means that many different types of helicopters can do the job. We want a helicopter that can do the job, because we did not make a deal like they did seven years ago.

National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Joe Clark Calgary Centre, AB

Mr. Speaker, we had a helicopter like that and the government cancelled it. What it is now proposing to do is to buy a helicopter that cannot save Canadians at sea.

The Prime Minister knows that when the government opened bidding to replace the Labrador it asked KPMG and Justice Dubin to conduct a review of the competitive process. In the case of the Sea King, the government has split the contract.

Has there been either an internal or an external study of the feasibility, the risk analysis, the fairness or the cost of the split? I ask because the department says there has not been.

National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, I do not want the hon. member to die. We want to have the best price. We want the best price for the helicopter and we want the best price for the equipment.

If we have the equipment at the best price and the helicopter at the best price, the total package will be at the best price.

We do that because we are very preoccupied with spending the money well that taxpayers pay to the government.

National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Canadian Alliance

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

Mr. Speaker, the government is the one that put the hell in helicopter. According to the last edition of Jane's Defence Weekly Canada's navy is participating in a working group of the maritime theatre ballistic missile defence forum. It is a group designed to enlist allies to make missile defence effective.

Why is Canada participating in the missile defence forum when the Prime Minister is running around telling everyone that no decision has been made yet to support missile defence, let alone participate in it?

National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, unlike others I want to know what I am against or for, so I am sending people to find out the reality. When they report on the reality the government will be able to make a decision.

We want to know the facts first. That is not what they do in the Alliance.

National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Canadian Alliance

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

Mr. Speaker, the fact is that the Canadian navy is already participating in a group that is designed to make missile defence effective. I do not know if the Prime Minister has a clue on what he is talking about.

A U.S. admiral who is involved in this says that the U.K. currently does not have a policy decision on missile defence. That is why it is not involved in the forum.

We are involved in the forum. Does that mean that Canada has made a decision on missile defence? If so, why the charade? Why is he pretending?

National Defence
Oral Question Period

2:30 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, we have not made up our mind. We want to know what the policy will be. We want to know what the Americans want to do.

I am not a person who does not want to know the facts. I want to know the facts. After that I will come back to cabinet and to the House of Commons, and a decision will be made. I will not pretend that I am not doing my job because I want to know all the facts.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Gauthier Roberval, QC

Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has just let us know what his vision of Quebec is.

It does not matter what judges, the police, lawyers, social workers, youth centres, the Liberal Party of Quebec, and the whole national assembly think about the young offenders issue. Ottawa knows how things should be done in Quebec.

Does the Prime Minister realize that his vision of Quebec has not kept pace with the times? It will not fly. Ignoring a social consensus such as the one Quebec has reached on this issue is behaviour unbefitting a Prime Minister.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member, who voted against distinct society in the national assembly and in the Parliament of Canada, has risen in his place to say that we do not understand Quebec.

Quebecers want to stay in Canada and Quebecers know very well that the criminal code is the responsibility of the Canadian government. They know very well that we are always there to do our job.

I am certain that the bill passed yesterday by the House of Commons will fully meet the needs of Quebecers and of all Canadians.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Gauthier Roberval, QC

Mr. Speaker, when this party voted against the Prime Minister's resolution, it was because it was not worth the paper it was written on.

By refusing to accept a consensus, which was unanimous in Quebec, has the Prime Minister not just shown us that it is true that his distinct society resolution was not worth the paper on which it was written? Once again, he has deceived us.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

The Speaker

Order, please. We are wasting time.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Saint-Maurice
Québec

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, when we tell them that they voted against distinct society, the Bloc Quebecois does not like it.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Young Offenders
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Liberal

Jean Chrétien Saint-Maurice, QC

I would also point out to the member that we too are speaking with Quebecers. They know that we have laws in Canada which are fair for everyone. They also know that this legislation will be very good, in Quebec as well as in the rest of Canada. Quebecers also know that the Bloc Quebecois did not win the majority of the votes in the last election.