House of Commons Hansard #117 of the 37th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was infrastructure.

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Main Estimates 2003-04
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7:50 p.m.

An hon. member

Thanks for defending the Liberals.

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7:50 p.m.

NDP

Bill Blaikie Winnipeg—Transcona, MB

It is not a question of defending Liberals; it is a question of lumping Liberals and Conservatives together when it comes to VIA Rail. We could go back and talk about Jean-Luc Pepin in 1981, another villain when it comes to the history of VIA Rail.

The fact of the matter is we in the NDP cannot see ourselves being in favour of a reduction in the funds going to VIA Rail because we know that in passenger rail lies the future in terms of meeting our Kyoto accord commitments.

We know that remote communities need to be served by passenger rail. We also know VIA Rail has some problems in terms of updating and refurbishing equipment to meet judgments that have been made, and appropriately so, with respect to access for disabled persons, with that various kinds of equipment that it has, particularly new equipment which it bought that does not meet certain specifications.

This extra money could be spent on a whole variety of things and I for one would not like to see VIA Rail denied this $9 million.

It may be that the Minister of Transport and VIA Rail did not have an adequate enough plan or an adequate enough explanation when they came before the committee. Fair enough. Let the committee follow that. However I certainly would not want to see a reduction in VIA Rail funding as the appropriate response to that lack of information.

I see I have only one minute left. My how time goes fast when I am having fun talking about rail transportation.

There is another thing I could not resist. I listened to the member from the Alliance who went on and on about the duties of the private sector versus the public sector.

Mr. Speaker, do you remember the bad old days when Air Canada was publicly owned and the transport sector was regulated? Do you remember all that good service from one city to another, when the planes flew on a regular basis, the food was decent and the service was decent? Do you remember those terrible days when the public sector was in charge?

Now the private sector is in charge. Now we have privatized Air Canada and things are just great. Is it not wonderful when the private sector is in charge of air transport in this country? It has done such a wonderful job. Can anyone imagine if the same people who are running Air Canada were running our health care system? It would be unbelievable.

To listen to this kind of ideological claptrap from the Alliance puts me in a foul mood indeed.

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7:55 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

It being 8 p.m. it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the business of supply.

The House resumed consideration of the motion.

Supply
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8 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker

The House will now proceed to the taking of several recorded divisions, namely the opposition motion standing in the name for Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, and all the motions relating to the main estimates standing in the name of the hon. President of the Treasury Board.

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Supply
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8:25 p.m.

The Speaker

I declare the motion lost.

The House resumed consideration of Vote No. 25, under Transport.

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June 12th, 2003 / 8:30 p.m.

The Speaker

The next question is on the motion to restore Vote No. 25 under Transport.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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8:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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8:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

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8:30 p.m.

Liberal

Marlene Catterall Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find consent in the House that those who voted on the previous motion be recorded as voting on this motion, with Liberals voting yes with the addition of the member for Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia, and with the member for Hamilton West abstaining on the vote.

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8:30 p.m.

The Speaker

Is there unanimous consent to proceed in this fashion?

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8:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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8:30 p.m.

Canadian Alliance

Gerry Ritz Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Mr. Speaker, Canadian Alliance members this evening will be voting no on this motion with the exception of the member for Delta—South Richmond.

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8:30 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-De- Beaupré—Île-D'Orléans, QC

Mr. Speaker, the members of the Bloc Quebecois will be voting in favour of this motion.