House of Commons Hansard #26 of the 37th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was liberal.

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Canadian Alliance

Ken Epp Elk Island, AB

Madam Speaker, this is quite incredible. I appreciate all the members on the other side as persons, but we have to keep our focus on what we trying to do.

When she brags about having paid down something on the debt, the debt is still higher than it was when the Liberals took over a little over 10 years ago. They allowed it to grow and part of that reason was the mismanagement of the funds. It is time that they own up to that.

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Liberal

Karen Redman Kitchener Centre, ON

Madam Speaker, there have been incredible investments made by the government over the past 10 years. There has been an incredible vision laid out by the Governor General in the other place on behalf of the government and the Prime Minister.

We have listened to Canadians. We are investing in health care. We are looking at the issues that matter to the people in Canada rather than trying to use cheap political tricks and score political points, as the members opposite are doing.

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

The member for Calgary East will have four minutes before I will have to interrupt for further business.

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Canadian Alliance

Deepak Obhrai Calgary East, AB

Madam Speaker, my colleague's motion states that this House recognize that the current government is not new, but is one that is linked to the past decade of mismanagement, corruption and incompetence. That is the essence of this motion.

We should listen to those members of Parliament because at the end of the day they are the same members of Parliament in the same government. The finance minister was with the old Liberal government. This is not the new government. Now these Liberal members stand and say that they are as angry as other Canadians.

My colleague from the other side mentioned HRDC and said that it was not $1 billion, but that it was $600 million. That is $600 million of taxpayer money. Now it is $6,000, and then maybe he will say $600. This is the same government which mismanaged Canadian taxpayer dollars. It has a huge record. I talked about that today in statements by members. We even had a flag scandal. Flags were given to the Canadian public. A gentleman in Vancouver said that he was paid $5,000 for the delivering nothing, not a single flag. The invoice was sent and the money was taken. That is how the government operates.

What did the Auditor General state? Quite clearly she identified that the government was not taking care of taxpayer dollars. We now have the Liberal members of Parliament on the public accounts committee literally attacking her and trying to discredit her. Today the Liberals stood and tried to defend their record. They said that they were not responsible for all the mismanagement and that they provided a stellar government. Canadians will tell them at the polls what they think about their stellar government. We are talking about incompetency.

Let us talk about something else such as the immigration department. We know the Liberals claim that they are absolutely a pro immigrant party, that they want immigrants, that they want new Canadians. They even used the figure of 1% of the population, which is 300,000 people. Let us forget about the 300,000. They cannot even manage the current immigration, the 220,000 people who are coming into Canada. People are coming into my riding. It used to take 18 months to process an application. Now they are talking 36 to 38 months, and it keeps increasing.

The lives of refugee claimants are hanging in the balance. It was two to three years. Now it will be six or seven years. When I spoke to the immigration officers in India and elsewhere, there was one simple answer. There are no resources and what the government says does not match the rhetoric.

I see I have used up my four minutes. I could have used my full 20 minutes to talk about the incompetency of the government.

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

It being 6:42 p.m. and this being the final supply day in the period ending March 26, 2004, it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the business of supply.

Is the House ready for the question?

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Some hon. members

Question.

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

The question is on the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Some hon. members

No.

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

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Some hon. members

Yea.

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

All those opposed will please say nay.

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Some hon. members

Nay.

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

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The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Hinton)

Call in the members.

Before the taking of the vote: