House of Commons Hansard #133 of the 38th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was first.

Topics

Justice
Oral Questions

3 p.m.

The Speaker

The hon. member for Kildonan—St. Paul.

Copyright Act
Oral Questions

3 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Mr. Speaker, last week when I asked the government to support an educational amendment to Bill C-60, the minister responded by saying that they were putting this issue aside because it needed some discussion and some clarification. Educators and parents are ready to discuss and able to clarify.

Will the government do the right thing and commit to allowing public consultation prior to supporting an educational amendment in this bill?

Copyright Act
Oral Questions

3 p.m.

Jeanne-Le Ber
Québec

Liberal

Liza Frulla Minister of Canadian Heritage and Minister responsible for Status of Women

Mr. Speaker, what I said is that we are going to have a public consultation on this specific issue. What I am also saying is it is not because it is available on the Internet that it is free.

National Defence
Oral Questions

October 6th, 2005 / 3 p.m.

Independent

Carolyn Parrish Mississauga—Erindale, ON

Mr. Speaker, without public consultation, Canada's military has shifted to a killing force, dispatched to a high risk area in Afghanistan, where the Taliban is regrouping, the poppy crop is good and powerful war lords are still very much in charge. Today a majority of U.S. citizens wants to bring troops home from Iraq.

Will the Prime Minister, in his laudable crusade against the democratic deficit, assure the House there will be a full and extensive debate in Parliament before Canada responds to any American request for troops in the U.S. effort to foist its style of democracy on Iraq?

National Defence
Oral Questions

3 p.m.

Toronto Centre
Ontario

Liberal

Bill Graham Minister of National Defence

Mr. Speaker, we are going to Afghanistan not at the request of the United States of America, but at the request of President Karzai and Mr. Abdullah. We are going at the request of Muslim women who want to have a chance to vote, young children who want to grow up in peace, people who want to have stability in their society. Our troops will be bringing that stability, while our aid brings them a chance to grow.

We are extremely proud of that mission. I beg of the hon. member not to bring discredit to something where Canada is bringing great credit to the world.

Business of the House
Oral Questions

3 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Kenney Calgary Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, could the hon. government House leader please inform the House of the government's plan for the business of the government in the House for the week ahead?

In particular, could the House leader tell us when the opposition parties will be receiving their opposition supply days, which the convention requires happen at least on a weekly basis? Can we be looking forward to at least one or will there be two opposition days in the next week, which will allow the opposition parties to give expression to issues that matter to the majority of Canadians who voted for the opposition parties?

Business of the House
Oral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Hamilton East—Stoney Creek
Ontario

Liberal

Tony Valeri Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I understand from the member's question that he was obviously not at the last opposition House leaders' meeting where the entire agenda up to December 15 was laid out, including the seven opposition days to which he has referred.

In terms of background, I might also suggest to the hon. member that back in 1973 when there was a minority Parliament, the House opened on January 4 and all seven opposition days were held between March 5 and March 26. Back in 1979, when the House opened on October 9, opposition days started November 6. Opposition days clearly are the purview of the government to schedule. We have scheduled all of them for the opposition parties.

The House will continue this afternoon with the second reading of Bill C-54, the first nations oil and gas bill, followed by second reading of Bill S-38, respecting trade in spirits, and report stage and third reading of Bill C-28, the food and drugs bill.

Tomorrow we will begin with Bill C-28 and if it is completed, we will proceed with second reading of Bill S-37, respecting the Hague Convention and Bill S-36, respecting diamonds.

Next week is the Thanksgiving break week and I wish all hon. members a very happy Thanksgiving.

When the House returns on October 17, we will consider second reading of Bill C-63, respecting the registration of political parties, followed by report stage and third reading of Bill C-49, the human trafficking bill, second reading of Bill C-65, the street racing bill, Bill C-64, the vehicle registration legislation, and report stage of Bill C-37, the do not call bill.

As the week continues, we will add to the list reference to committee before second reading of Bill C-50, respecting the cruelty to animals, Bill C-44, the transportation legislation, Bill C-47, respecting Air Canada, the reference before second reading of Bill C-46, the correctional services bill, and by the end of the week we hope to begin debate on the energy and surplus bills that are being introduced this week. There is also ongoing discussions about a take note debate that week.

As members can see, there is a heavy agenda and important legislation. As I said and as I laid out to the opposition House leaders at our previous meeting, in the post-Remembrance Day segment of this sitting, we will consider the business of supply and we hope to be in a position to deal with the final stages of many of these very important bills before the end of the year.

Points of Order
Oral Questions

3:05 p.m.

The Speaker

Order, please. I am now prepared to rule on the point of order raised on Tuesday, September 27 by the hon. member for Mississauga South concerning the admissibility of an amendment to Motion No. 135.

I would like to thank the hon. member for raising this matter, as well as the mover of the amendment, the hon. member for Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, for his comments.

Motion No. 135 currently reads as follows:

That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider transferring the land currently leased by the Queensway-Carleton Hospital from the National Capital Commission to the Hospital at a cost of one dollar.

The proposed amendment is:

That Motion No.135 be amended by:

(a) deleting the word “transferring” and replacing it with the words “continuing to lease”; and

(b) by adding after the word “dollar”, the following: “per annum, starting at the end of the current lease in the year 2013”.

The hon. member for Mississauga South argued that the proposed amendment is inadmissible as it would represent a substantial change to the original intent of the motion. In particular, he said that there was a substantial difference between permanently transferring land to the hospital at a cost of $1.00 and leasing the land to the hospital at a cost of $1.00 per year.

In response, the hon. member for Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington claimed that the original intent of the motion was to allow the hospital to continue functioning and that his amendment was consistent with that objective.

On September 29, following a ruling on an amendment to another private member's motion, the hon. member for Mississauga South added further arguments as to why he felt the amendment to Motion No.135 was inadmissible. He asked the Chair to consider whether the amendment went beyond the scope of the main motion or of it introduced new concepts which would more properly be the subject of a separate debate. The hon. member also alluded to possible legal difficulties with the amendment due to the laws governing the custodianship of National Capital Commission properties.

On this last point, let me say quite clearly that the Chair does not rule on questions of law. My only concern is the procedural acceptability of the amendment, and with respect to this, the House of Commons Procedure and Practice , at page 452, states that:

A motion in amendment arises out of debate and is proposed either to modify the original motion in order to make it more acceptable to the House or to present a different proposition as an alternative to the original.

At page 453 of the same work, it also states:

An amendment must be relevant to the main motion. It must not stray from the main motion but aim to further refine its meaning and intent.

I have had time to review the amendment carefully. While acknowledging that there is a difference between selling a property and continuing to lease it, I am satisfied that the amendment is relevant, that it is in keeping with the intent of the main motion and that it does not exceed the scope of the main motion. I therefore rule that the amendment is in order and can be put to the House.

Points of Order
Oral Questions

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Don Boudria Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I am rising in my capacity as chair of the procedure and House affairs committee. I believe there has been consultation among all political parties in the House to revert to the presentation of reports from committees so I can present a report regarding the matter of the appointment of the Clerk of the House of Commons.

Points of Order
Oral Questions

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

Is there unanimous consent to revert to presentation of reports by committees?

Points of Order
Oral Questions

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

Committees of the House
Routine Proceedings

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Don Boudria Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present the 47th report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

Under Standing Order 111.1(1), the committee has examined the nomination of Audrey Elizabeth O'Brien to the position of Clerk of the House of Commons, and recommends that the House ratify her appointment.

Committees of the House
Routine Proceedings

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Karen Redman Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, discussions have taken place between all parties with respect to the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs and I believe you would find consent for the following motion. I move:

That the membership of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be amended as follows:

Raymond Simard for Françoise Boivin.

Committees of the House
Routine Proceedings

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

Does the hon. member chief government whip have unanimous consent of the House to propose the motion?

Committees of the House
Routine Proceedings

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.