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Health committee  The problem I have is that you always use fear. When you were talking about level 2 pathogens and anthrax releases, accidents, you were saying you're nervous about accidents happening. Even with this law in place, it will not prevent any accident, any spill, any release. I'm sorr

March 26th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  That's what Mrs. Tam said earlier. We're talking about level 2 pathogens.

March 26th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  I want to know how this bill will protect us from an accident.

March 26th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Yes; I received a copy of the proposed amendments after the witnesses were heard. It does not seem that the advice about excluding level 2 micro-organisms has been taken into consideration. You have reduced the fine from $250,000 to $50,000. Thank you very much, that is a great r

March 26th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Thank you again for giving me the opportunity to express some fears or concerns about Bill C-11. I would like to take the opportunity to raise a matter that went unnoticed last time: bacterial toxins. The CDC in the United States consider two or three toxins to be really dangero

March 26th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  I agree with what Dr. Hynes just said.

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Do you mean changing a lab that's actually level 2?

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  In fact, what happens most of the time when you take a micro-organism out of its natural environment, like a human or an animal, where it is infectious, and you passage it in vitro, it loses its ability to cause infection. In fact, what you would see more often is the other way

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  For example, no one has satisfactorily explained why Leishmania, which everyone in the world, including in Canada, considers to be a level 2 micro-organism, suddenly found itself on the level 3 list.

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Actually, there already is a classification in Canada. In the Health Canada web site—I do not know exactly where—all micro-organisms are described. It tells whether each is a bacterium, a protozoan, a fungus or a virus. It says what family they belong to, what pathology they can

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Indeed. I do not like the word “pathogens“ because, often, micro-organisms living in some nook or cranny in the environment suddenly find themselves inside a human being and cause disease. Using the term “micro-organism“ is better than saying “pathogen“ all the time. Removing lev

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  The classification to schedule 3 was a big surprise to all of us working on Leishmania in the country. There was a big mobilization. There were just about 12 labs in the country working on Leishmania. After our contact with Health Canada and Mr. Hynes, whom I just met here today,

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Yes, they did, which is a good thing. We are very happy that they listened. But then you wonder about the other pathogens. I don't know; I did not do the work for the other people.

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Concerning the level 2 pathogens, if you consider the risks associated with working with these pathogens, the risks or the remote possibility that terrorists would use them to cause harm, and then you consider on the other hand the constraints--financial, etc.--on researchers wor

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux

Health committee  Well, I think it's a bit exaggerated, but--

March 10th, 2009Committee meeting

Dr. Albert Descoteaux