Justice committee  Our overall concern is that this bill seems to have a law and order approach, get tough with young offenders. And we believe that the result of the bill as it stands will be that there will be more young people in custody. That truly causes us concern. I want to talk briefly a

Justice committee  Thank you. I'm Agnes Samler, president of Defence for Children International--Canada. My colleague Les Horne is the volunteer executive director. We've both worked extensively with young offenders in Ontario and across the country and we both have been child advocates in Ontari