Justice committee  I would say I have met, I wouldn't say in that particular circumstance, but, yes, I've met victims. I've met parents of victims--

Justice committee  Not beaten to death, no.

Justice committee  That's a good question.

Justice committee  Here is what I've learned from all the years of working with young people. Because it was a very pointed question, I want to say to you that sometimes the young people I worked with and the children I worked with would rather have been dead than to go through what they went throu

Justice committee  I hear you, but I want to answer your question.

Justice committee  Yes, the solutions and problems are not always connected. You've raised a very important problem, and I think it would be important for this committee to consider that, but perhaps the solution isn't to change the YCJA. There are other solutions you should be considering.

Justice committee  I'm sorry. There are other solutions, such as building our communities, providing resources to parents and families, looking at issues around racialized youth and how they're treated in society.

Justice committee  I'm trying to understand the question you're asking.

Justice committee  I would say of course. It sets up the crown certainly as the enemy of the young person who is considering making a determination that would not be what the youth probably would consider is in his best interest. That's how I would answer that. I'm not convinced that the YCJA is

Justice committee  Thank you.

Justice committee  I was not.

Justice committee  Thank you. I want to say that I feel very privileged to be here, particularly in light of the last discussion, about witnesses and time. I feel very privileged because I know many Canadians have a real interest in the work of this committee and this bill, including young people