Bill C-11 committee  I think you've raised a good point. I think it is important to clarify that we are certainly not coming here as Luddites or haters of technology. Music publishers have always dealt in an intangible. We deal in the business of the song. So whether it's a player piano or an eight-t

Bill C-11 committee  Yes.

Bill C-11 committee  Agreed.

Bill C-11 committee  I agree absolutely. But the thing is, your behaviour is not widespread behaviour. If all Canadians were like Mike Lake, we would probably be much better off as a music industry.

Bill C-11 committee  Bless you.

Bill C-11 committee  Absolutely.

Bill C-11 committee  I do think my colleagues have put forward some really helpful information today in terms of the historical context and the original thinking by the Copyright Board to have discounted rates, essentially, when radio was hurting, in order to demonstrate the music industry's willingn

Bill C-11 committee  It's a great question, and I wish I had a really good answer for you. I don't, unfortunately, because copyright is such a complex thing. There's such a long list of components within any copyright act, and to say that this act is really good overall and this act is really bad....

Bill C-11 committee  Right.

Bill C-11 committee  Yes, we do make a distinction between foreign and domestic in this regard. The technical amendment we are proposing is specifically for offshore sites. It's specifically for sites that are rampant pirates and being able to create injunctions that would block them from entering

Bill C-11 committee  Right.

Bill C-11 committee  When you say they've paid once—

Bill C-11 committee  Well, as Ms. Shepherd has pointed out, they haven't paid for the music coming in the door. That music is provided to them for free. Are you talking about the fact that they've paid for performance royalties?

Bill C-11 committee  This goes back to the fundamental principles of copyright that have been globally held right back to the 19th century. There is a right of communication and a right of reproduction. Each of these rights has an individual value, and each of these rights is used differently. They p

Bill C-11 committee  It's certainly a misrepresentation to represent royalties as taxes, because taxes go to governments and royalties go to creators.