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Industry committee  —and we have no problem with that. We think that should continue to exist.

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  No, satellite radio is separate, and the rates are set separately. There is no exemption in the Copyright Act for satellite radio. There's no exemption in the Copyright Act for any other type of music user. To what I was saying earlier, it really is not technologically neutral

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  It's in flux. Shaw owns Corus.

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  Yes. Currently commercial radio stations don't pay royalties to performers and sound recording owners on the first $1.25 million of revenue. That's per station, regardless how many stations are in a radio group. If you're a 400 station radio group, you get 400 exemptions.

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  Yes, that has been looked at. Even though the exemption exists, every time the copyright board sets the rate, it continues to set a rate for under $1.25 million, and the rate for under $1.25 million is 1.44% of the station's revenues. Under $1.25 million, the impact on a small s

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  It would be, if the exemption is removed. As for whether or not a study has been done on this as well, the Copyright Board, in the first commercial radio tariff, looked at precisely the question you're asking, and asked, “Can any radio station, from the smallest to the largest,

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  No, because, as I said, the rates are already so low. There is a separate exemption—and this may help in terms of what you're asking as well. Community radio stations have a separate exemption, and all community radio stations have an exemption where they only pay $100 per year

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  One answer to that—and this has more to do with the Copyright Board—is that currently SOCAN and Re:Sound can only go to the Copyright Board to establish rates. So even if we're able to negotiate directly with users and work out something that the users are happy with and we're ha

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  It would work a lot better in that then they would be getting the full value of their work as opposed to getting a discounted rate that's discounted right in the act.

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  For Re:Sound I can echo some of what Eric was saying in terms of the importance of data. I mentioned before that we had fought very hard before the Copyright Board to get full, 365-day radio logs from radio stations before we got a sample.

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  We're getting a lot more data. We need to manage that data much more cleverly and cost-effectively. We have then worked with organizations like Bell Canada, the broadcasters, in making sure that with the ISRC codes, the standard identifiers, the labels used are getting from the

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  Yes, and that growth in the number of businesses, if I'm getting your numbers right, is often in the very small businesses, the little individual users of music. Yes, we're getting more of them licensed and paying, but they're paying tiny amounts versus the radio stations and the

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  I can only really comment on the ones that I was dealing with, and those are subsidies that are preventing rights holders from getting paid for the commercial use of their music. It's a subsidy for the industry at the expense of the creator. They're ones in which commercial use i

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay

Industry committee  I wouldn't really have anything to add that Solange and Eric haven't already raised. I think they have answered it well.

June 14th, 2018Committee meeting

Ian MacKay