Foreign Affairs committee  Thank you very much. Thanks for having me here today.

Foreign Affairs committee  No, my intention here was to improve a situation. I think I've done that. Some may view it as not being perfect, but again, I don't think there are many of us who are perfect. I do think it's as close to perfect as we can get, and all I can do is say that I hope I get the commit

Foreign Affairs committee  Well, I would respectfully disagree with you on that.

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes. I think by the federal government trying to bring in legislation, as you said, to compensate or cover the provincial jurisdiction, that's sending a message to the provinces that we don't trust them to make a decision. To Mr. Julian's earlier comments about British Columbia

Foreign Affairs committee  Mr. Julian, I'm glad your persistence hasn't changed since our days on the international trade committee. You're a dog with a bone. I think that Mr. Dechert spelled it out quite clearly. Basically, in my opinion, there is no loophole that you're referring to. It comes in there,

Foreign Affairs committee  I'll be very brief. Yes, the diversion at Chicago that you referred to isn't going to change. Let's call it grandfathering it in or whatever. It's there, but it will stop any new diversions similar to that. You mentioned the pipeline that goes to London, and I'm quite aware of

Foreign Affairs committee  With all due respect, I actually did respond to that. I'll do it again, Mr. Julian. If that proposal, as Mr. Tilson stated, was to be proposed by the proponents of this quarry, it would come under those provincial jurisdictions. The water being taken would not be coming out of t

Foreign Affairs committee  I'm going to respectfully disagree a little bit, Mr. Tilson, on the part that it comes under the realm of this bill, and I'll try and explain why. When and if this quarry application goes forward, if at some point they're removing groundwater--which I hear they are--they will ha

Foreign Affairs committee  If this were under federal jurisdiction, I believe—

Foreign Affairs committee  Okay, first of all, as I was going to—

Foreign Affairs committee  My comment to that is, if this application were to load train cars, say out of Georgian Bay, as Mr. Tilson said, I believe the bill would cover that off. I strongly believe that. I just believe that it does as far as the provincial part of it. You referred to your home province

Foreign Affairs committee  Okay, I'll stop there.

Foreign Affairs committee  No, again, I think you're missing the key point here, Mr. Julian. This is not out of federal jurisdiction waters or waters that are under federal jurisdiction.

Foreign Affairs committee  I don't believe so, with all due respect.

Foreign Affairs committee  Could I just respond to that, Mr. Julian?