Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Well, actually, the website is set up by various groups: the Canadian Health Coalition, the Professional Institute of the Public Service, Public Service Alliance of Canada, Registered Nurses Association of Ontario, Syndicat Agriculture Union, and the Canadian Federation of Nurses

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Yes, absolutely. The process that was in place did not adequately protect Canadians, and what happened was that 22 people died. Now we've seen steps taken to address those fundamental problems that were happening there. So yes, I think when you have a process that basically reduc

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  I didn't say corporate greed. I said that when you have systems in place that will have the process of making sure there's proper inspection...if that's not in place, then clearly the public is going to be put in jeopardy.

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  I don't think it's safer, David. I think in many ways we'll be lucky if it is as safe as it was. We've actually got a lot more trade happening globally around the world. Sources of food are much more widespread. Food is transported great distances, and there are simply more hands

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Absolutely, that's correct, yes. I think the underlying fundamental assumption of the Canadian public is that the government's job, your job as an elected person, is to make sure that laws don't get put in place or regulations aren't put in place that fundamentally harm Canadian

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Yes, when you transfer--

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  —resources internally or externally, something is going to suffer if you're going to respond to a crisis. The crisis, of course, is what draws people's attention to the fact that there needs to be regulation. This is what happened in the stock market crash. Everything was going

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  My understanding is that it's not taking place in the same way.

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  The system in place right now puts the onus on the company to carry that out.

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Oh yes, absolutely. Part of the problem is the opportunity to talk to an inspector. They don't have that same amount of time in the plant or the same environment in which to just approach--

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Yes, they can.

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  I'm not an expert on this, so I have to acknowledge that there is some movement, according to the testimony. When you asked Mr. Kingston the question, he said that there was that sort of movement, and he said it was very rare in the meat inspection department.

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Clearly, when you have a crisis, you're going to concentrate resources to combat that crisis, absolutely.

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  Ultimately, it's who's responsible for setting up and enforcing these measures. Is it industry that's regulating itself? Is it the role of CFIA to look at the audit reports or the various reports that come in through that system? Or are they checking on the shop floor as well as

Subcommittee on Food Safety committee  For the record, we don't work with R-CALF and it was not a joint press release.