I agree 100% that's what should happen. I also agree that it'll be three years or four years or five before you get an answer out of the WTO, and then if we win.... Once the Americans lose based on the law, they never come through on the money they're supposed to pay anyway, but I would agree on that point for sure.
On the point you made in response, though, Jurgen, what good is it when we're out of business? And that comes to the point of both the Canadian Pork Council and the Canadian Cattlemen's Association, which I certainly have a problem with. We did our report on the livestock industry last year. Both the Canadian Pork Council and the Canadian Cattlemen's Association were dead against ad hoc programs, and I understand why, but we can play this game of being fair and reasonable traders under the rules when nobody else is and we're not going to have an industry left.
You have Alberta coming in with a $60, I think it was, payment per breeding animal. You have Saskatchewan now with $40. You have P.E.I. and some of the rest with none. We have a patchwork quilt of funding across the country and a patchwork quilt of policy, because there's no federal leadership.
So what do we do in the meantime? What good is it? The federal government should be there, I think, with money. Where you are right now in the industry, you have a hell of a lot more debt than you had two years ago. Things haven't improved. COOL's coming in worse than we thought it was, so what are we going to do? Are we going to demand there be payments in the meantime, or are we just going to say, well, to heck with the industry and we'll see what happens? We're losing it in the Maritimes, and we're a deficit area. We're a deficit area for beef and hog production, and we're losing our industry.