The issue is capacity. We're getting to where we're at the end of the capacity. There is going to be a time shortly when they physically are not going to be able to move any more product, whether it's grain, lumber, forestry or any commercial product. Let's look at where the shipping is right now. I'm not trying to pick on CN, but as an example, there's a little stretch between Dawson Creek and Grande Prairie where there's no rail that would connect northern Alberta and Saskatchewan to Prince Rupert. That's a big cost, so that would be something I would like to see happen sooner than later.
I keep going back to capacity because, no matter how efficient the railways get, there's going to be a point in time when physically we're not going to be able to move it. In my mind, we need infrastructure all across the board, both at the port and along the railway. More terminals are being built now in western Canada, because every year we've been increasing our grain production. It's a steady growth. We don't see where it's going to stop in the future, and if we're going to grow the economy, which I hear quite often—