Evidence of meeting #3 for Canada-China Relations in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chinese.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marta Morgan  Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Paul Thoppil  Assistant Deputy Minister, Asia Pacific, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Steve Verheul  Assistant Deputy Minister, Trade Policy and Negotiations, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Fred Gorrell  Assistant Deputy Minister, International Affairs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
François Rivest  Executive Director, Greater China, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Duane McMullen  Director General, Trade Commissioner Service - Operations, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Could you table that document?

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

We will be happy to provide more information on that, yes.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

By February 3...?

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

When is February 3? Next week?

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Yes.

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

We'll provide that as soon as possible. Let me get back to you on the timing.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

All right. The ambassador's in next week, so before that.

10:20 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

Yes, that's understood.

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Do you have a global power strategy that you could table with this committee, a strategy that would look at China, Russia, the United States...?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

We do not have a pre-written global power strategy.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Could you table, by the end of the day on February 3, a record of all ministerial travel to China since 2015?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

I'm happy to look into that. We'll also look into how quickly we can provide it. That could be a little complicated to pull together.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

You mentioned in your remarks—I'm not sure if it was the government, Canada or you—that you were shocked and saddened by the detention of the two Canadian citizens. “Saddened” surprises me. What about “outraged”?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

We have been very clear on this matter that the arbitrary detention of Mr. Kovrig and Mr. Spavor is unacceptable, and it is our top priority to resolve this issue.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Would you call them hostages?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

Mr. Spavor and Mr. Kovrig have been arbitrarily detained by the Government of China.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

They've been.... Pardon me?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

They've been arbitrarily detained.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Arbitrarily, but not illegally...?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

They've been arbitrarily detained.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

So it was an accident. It kind of just happened.

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

What do you mean by “arbitrarily”?

10:25 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Foreign Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development

Marta Morgan

I think I've been very clear on this issue that the Government of Canada is very deeply concerned by the arbitrary detention and arrest by Chinese authorities of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor. We have been working tirelessly to address this issue.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

All right.

Do you really believe the United States government is equally concerned about the detention of two Canadians and that it would be taking the same posture if it were two Americans? Are they as equally concerned about this as we are?