Evidence of meeting #152 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was media.

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4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

We will start up again.

I'm pleased to welcome the Honourable Pablo Rodriguez, Minister of Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism. With him today, from the Department of Canadian Heritage, are Hélène Laurendeau, Deputy Minister, and Andrew Francis, the Chief Financial Officer.

Today the committee will study the subject matter of supplementary estimates (B), 2018-19, votes 1b and 5b under Department of Canadian Heritage, referred to the committee on January 28, 2019, and pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), deemed reported back three days before the final allotted day of the supply period ending March 26, 2019. Therefore, today's meeting will take place under Standing Order 108(2).

You have the floor, Minister.

4:35 p.m.

Honoré-Mercier Québec

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez LiberalMinister of Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Members of the committee, good afternoon.

Thank you for inviting me to speak before the committee.

Before we begin, I would like to acknowledge that we are gathered on the traditional territory of the Algonquin Anishinabeg.

As you mentioned, I am joined by Ms. Laurendeau and Mr. Francis.

Before we get into the supplementary estimates, I will thank the committee for all your hard work in the last couple of months on Bill C-91, regarding indigenous languages; on the review of the Copyright Act; on Bill C-369, to establish a national day for truth and reconciliation, just name a few. Those are very important issues to Canadians, and your work is making a difference in their lives.

Thank you for all your hard work.

Today I'm honoured to speak to you about the investments we're making in Canadian arts and culture. This year's budget reflects a promise we made to Canadians four years ago, a promise to support the middle class and the people working hard to join it. Canadian Heritage will continue to reinvest in our creators and cultural industries.

Why do we do it? We do it because culture matters. It matters to all Canadians. We all love going to the movies, singing along to a favourite band, or enjoying a great book. Judging from your reactions to a certain Canadian rock icon who recently paid this committee a visit, I think members of the committee can agree that some of our best memories are from concerts we've been to.

I often say that culture is fun, but it is also good for the economy. In fact, culture contributes more than $53 billion to the Canadian economy. The cultural sectors also employ over 650,000 Canadians and create many more jobs in the tourism industry. This means indirect job opportunities in restaurants, transportation and construction, among others. It has a major impact across the board.

Lastly, we've reinvested in culture because diversity and inclusion are important to Canadians. These values are part of our identity, part of who we are. Sadly, we know that Canada is not immune to racism, discrimination and the politics of division. That is why we're investing to celebrate our diversity and promote inclusion.

The investments in budget 2019 will allow us to keep the promise we made to Canadians.

We're supporting our music industry by investing $20 million over two years, or $10 million a year, in the Canada Music Fund. We're supporting our creators, festivals and shows by investing $16 million over two years in the Canada Arts Presentation Fund.

We're also supporting local celebrations, especially those of diverse groups such as pride festivals and powwows, by investing $34 million over two years in the Building Communities through Arts and Heritage Program and in the Celebration and Commemoration Program.

It should be noted that the amount also includes $10 million over two years to mark the new National Truth and Reconciliation Day and to celebrate National Indigenous Peoples Day.

Through the multiculturalism program, we support projects to eliminate discrimination, racism and prejudice in communities across Canada. In budget 2019, we proposed to provide $45 million over three years, starting this year, for a new anti-racism strategy. We want to find ways to combat racism in all its forms, while focusing on community projects. At the governmental level, these efforts will be coordinated by an anti-racism secretariat.

In terms of reconciliation, our government is taking a decisive step in the right direction by tabling our bill on indigenous languages. Thank you all for doing the pre-study and completing your report on the bill. What you did is so important, because as you know, the situation is urgent. Three-quarters of indigenous languages spoken in Canada are endangered. That is why we will provide adequate, stable and sustainable funding to reclaim, revitalize, maintain and strengthen indigenous languages.

In our 2019 budget, we're proposing major investments. You saw it: more than $333 million over five years, starting right now, starting this year, and more than $115 million every year after that.

The bill proposes responsive and flexible mechanisms that will allow us to direct funds to Indigenous communities, namely regional and national Indigenous organizations, and self-governing Indigenous governments.

They are the ones working on the ground, and they know local needs much better than I do, much better than we do. They are, therefore, best placed to define the solutions that will work best for them. They will have the freedom they need to allocate the funds appropriately.

Madam Chair, we look forward to continuing to work with you, members of the committee, and the Senate to pass the bill before the House adjourns for the summer.

In addition to the investments laid out in the budget, we're pleased that the supplementary estimates (B) include the additional funding we requested. It amounts to an increase of $9.34 million.

Allow me to review quickly the main items included in that amount. First, the amount of $5 million will go to the Vancouver Foundation to improve access to Canada's justice system. It's also our government's way of recognizing the enormous contributions of Beverley McLachlin, former chief justice of Canada. These funds are used to support projects that help break down barriers to civil and family justice.

Our government is committed to ensuring that Canadians have the best possible access to the justice system. It's key to having a healthy, democratic and inclusive society.

In honour of the former Governor General of Canada, the Right Honourable David Johnston, Supplementary Estimates (B) also include a grant of more than $2 million to support a foundation, which mobilizes Canadians around promising projects that contribute to a stronger Canada.

Thirdly, Supplementary Estimates (B) includes more than $1 million for the Canadian Soccer Association to support the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup of Soccer. Those who know me know that I'm very pleased about that.

Finally, I'd also like to mention an investment of more than $500,000 for an initiative of vital importance to all Canadian citizens: ensuring a healthy digital democracy.

The health of our democracy depends on the reliability and diversity of our news and information sources. Every citizen is entitled to develop informed opinions, hold governments and individuals to account, and participate in public discourse. There is a rise in false, misleading and harmful information online and in social media. In this matter, our government takes its role very seriously.

We support projects that equip Canadians with the ability to evaluate online information with a critical eye. In our 2019 budget, we want to strengthen this digital democracy project, so we're proposing an investment of more than $19 million over four years. These funds will create a program that will help us better understand the impacts of misinformation and identify ways to fight it. This investment will also allow Canadians to lead an international initiative to strengthen citizens' resilience to misinformation and promote diversity of online content.

It is in the same perspective that we want to support journalists across Canada. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Professional journalism is one of the pillars of our democracy.

When we see how quickly our newspapers are disappearing, we cannot stand idly by. Our government is playing a major role in that as well. It will continue to play a major role and we will do something about it.

You know that, you saw it in the fall 2018 economic statement: we announced our intention to bring in targeted tax measures in support of Canadian journalism, including through tax credits and tax incentives. I want to assure you that the fundamental principles of an independent and free press will be absolutely upheld in the granting of these credits and incentives.

Madam Chair, arts and culture remain priorities for our government, and we'll continue to support our artists and creators, just as we will continue to create jobs and protect our inclusive diversity.

Madam Chair, honourable colleagues, thank you for your attention.

I also want to thank my parliamentary secretary, Andy Filmore, for his absolutely extraordinary work. We are lucky to have him.

I would be pleased to answer your questions.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Okay.

We will now move on to questions and answers.

Mr. Breton, you have seven minutes.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, minister for being here with us today.

Welcome Ms. Laurendeau and Mr. Francis. It is always a pleasure to have you here with us.

We are very proud to see that the government is investing in arts and culture.

Minister, I will get straight to my first question, which — I hope — might affect organizations back home.

You talked about investing in festivals. As everyone knows, there are major festivals held in Quebec, in big cities like Montreal and Quebec City, in which the government participates. However, if I understand correctly, the proposed new investments in the budget for festivals are more for the regions, as well as smaller festivals that are often the cornerstones of celebrations. You talked about the economy and this investment will add to the regional economy.

I would like you to elaborate on these investments you are proposing for festivals that you briefly mentioned in your presentation.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Thank you for the question, Mr. Breton.

Thank you for inviting me. I so enjoyed visiting your riding and playing guitar with the students at the school in Granby. It was a nice time.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

It was memorable.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

It was spur of the moment and memorable.

You are right to point out that we've made a considerable investment in festivals. In fact, there are two investments in particular that you need to remember. For major festivals we are investing $16 million in the Canada Arts Presentation Fund. For smaller festivals, like the ones that might be held in your riding and elsewhere of course, we are investing $14 million through the Local Festivals component of the Building Communities Through Arts and Heritage program.

We are also investing another $10 million in celebrations and commemorations such as Canada Day or other types of celebrations. We are essentially talking about an additional $40 million over two years for these celebrations.

It is certainly a lot of money. This is the first time in about a decade that these budgets have been increased. Our festivals bring us together to celebrate these important things. These festivals add life and vitality to our regions, our villages, and our towns.

I know that a number of festivals are held in your home riding, Mr. Breton. I knew your region well. I hope people will come see us to talk about a possible collaboration.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

Thank you.

This is excellent news for our regions where these festivals are held. Industry was very keen on seeing this investment. It is excellent news.

You talked about journalism. In my riding alone, there are five media outlets. It is incredible. There is a daily newspaper and four community newspapers and one radio station. As you said, journalists are going through a period of immense change.

You talked about investments. How specifically can our local media access more capital to help them get through this major shift?

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

You are right to bring that up.

As you said, our newspapers are in crisis. They have lost half their employees since 2010. We are going to address the heart of the problem by creating concrete measures to support Canadian newspapers, big and small, all while preserving journalistic independence.

There are two different investments. First there is $50 million for the regions. We want to ensure that everyone has access to news that is objective, impartial, and balanced. We think that people have the right to know what is going on at their city hall or or what their provincial MLA or federal MP are doing, no matter where they are from.

There is a $50-million investment, but also another large investment of $600 million consisting mainly in tax credits. This will be managed in a neutral way. In other words, there will be a committee and industry itself will determine membership. It is not the Minister of Canadian Heritage who will determine, based on certain criteria, eligibility for the tax credits that will be paid to the newspapers in question.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

If I understand correctly, the tax credits will go mostly to news reporters.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

It has to be about the news.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

It has to be news.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

It can't be an opinion piece.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

It can't be operational.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

It can't be for opinion pieces, when someone writes their point of view, for example.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

It has to be news.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

We're talking about news that is objective, professional. Here in Canada we are very lucky to have such professional journalism. It is the envy of the world. That is the type of journalism we are trying to protect.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

I have a minute and a half left.

Music means a lot to me. You mentioned it and said that we will provide more support to the industry with a $20-million investment over two years. There may be other aspects in your presentation that have to do with music, including with regard to the Canada Music Fund.

Minister, could you please provide more details on the new investments that have to do with music?

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Absolutely. Music is something we all care about.

Two things needed to happen. First we had to increase funding. The Canada Music Fund had not been increased. Not only that, but it had been reduced over the years. We had to reinvest in it significantly. We are investing $20 million over two years, $10 million a year.

ADISQ is applauding our investment. It is exactly what they asked for. We needed to not only invest this $20 million, but also modernize the Canada Music Fund. We will do that at the same time.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

Thank you.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

That is all the time you have.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

It is over.

Thank you very much.

April 9th, 2019 / 4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Thank you very much.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

We are now going to Mr. Shields for seven minutes, please.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

First of all, Minister, I will thank your staff. I want to thank Ms. Laurendeau for her input into our committee and the study we recently did. She stayed with us for many hours and provided valuable input, so I really appreciate your staff being there. She was excellent.