Evidence of meeting #86 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was community.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Linda Frum  Senator, Ontario, C
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michael MacPherson
Erin Virgint  Committee Researcher

4:20 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Michael MacPherson

Yes, basically we've had a production meeting with the various services that are involved in producing a report. The time estimate of the earliest time we can get the report back and distribute it to the committee would be December 8.

It is still being drafted now. After it's finished being drafted, it will go to translation services. They have a service standard that they meet. They can only do so many words a day, and this is a busy time of year. Every committee is trying to get a report in, basically. After translation services, it goes to publication services. Everything is in the proper channels and there really is nothing more to be done to speed it along at this point.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Dan Vandal Liberal Saint Boniface—Saint Vital, MB

I just find December 8 to be an incredibly long time. It's already been two weeks with the administration. The eighth is at least another two weeks. Is there any way we can get it back by December 1?

4:20 p.m.

The Clerk

It's really out of our hands. It's going to translation on Tuesday. My understanding is that the drafters are going to be working on it all weekend just to meet that deadline. Unless we instruct the analysts to stop drafting now and go with what has already been written, as an incomplete report...and you'd only gain a few days doing that.

Right now it's out of our hands. It's just that this is the process and this is just how long it takes to produce a report of that size.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Peter Van Loan

It is what it is.

Mr. Reid.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

May I inquire as to what that size is likely to be? That's why I think we really do have to go to Erin to answer.

4:25 p.m.

Erin Virgint Committee Researcher

We're looking at around 40 to 50 pages.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

This is exclusive of any recommendations.

4:25 p.m.

Committee Researcher

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

This is essentially a summary of testimony, major topics, laid out in the manner described in that meeting at which you proposed or laid out a possible outline, and then reviewed it. That's what we're talking about.

4:25 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Erin Virgint

Exactly, yes.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

If I might go back then to the clerk, did you say December 8 is the earliest date, or is an actual date we can be certain of?

4:25 p.m.

The Clerk

We can never say “guaranteed”, but when we had our production meeting that was our best estimate of when we could have it back. Everyone felt comfortable that December 8 would be doable.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

All right. I just ask that for scheduling purposes. The eighth is what day of the week?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Peter Van Loan

It's a Friday.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

That's the Friday before the final week that we sit prior to rising.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Peter Van Loan

Correct.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

We're likely to have two meetings at which we could deal with the content of the report, I would gather, assuming the House rises when anticipated. Is that correct?

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Dan Vandal Liberal Saint Boniface—Saint Vital, MB

Yes, I'm looking at the calendar.

To clarify, it's going to translation on Tuesday the 28th. How long does it take to translate?

4:25 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Erin Virgint

They said five days for 40 pages.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Dan Vandal Liberal Saint Boniface—Saint Vital, MB

That brings you to beyond the first. Under these timelines, we're likely to be studying this into February, unless we can actually nail it—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Or debating it anyway.... The study portion is done. I'm not sure that's an unrealistic expectation.

Here's a question, if you don't mind.

Mr. Chair, I'm taking liberties. I should be—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Peter Van Loan

You are.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

May I...?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Peter Van Loan

Yes. I'm trying to avoid.... The chair had encouraged us not to discuss committee business at this meeting. I'm trying to respect that but I will indulge you.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Thank you.

The eighth is the best estimate. That's a Friday. If it was done, for the sake of argument, a couple of days earlier, we could then actually have a meeting on the sixth within our schedule. I don't want to put you in a position of.... I don't want to squeeze a promise out of you. I merely ask whether that is within the realm of possibility, as opposed to non-possibility. I guess I'm looking at the clerk for this because you're dealing with all the different things.