Evidence of meeting #9 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was athletes.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Patrick Borbey  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Of course I can, but Mr. Van Loan, the idea—

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Could you name four of the Fathers of Confederation?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Order, please.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

—of the 150th anniversary is not to polarize it but have it very inclusive.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Exactly. You can name them from both parties.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

The Museum of History, for example, will present

its new Canadian History Hall. It will then be possible to present Canada's history over the past 150 years, including both the good times and the more difficult ones. Our country's history will need to be explained and Canadians must be allowed to become more familiar with it. I agree with you on that issue. That is one of our indicators at Canadian Heritage.

I also think the country's history is diverse—

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Okay, in fairness, I have limited time and I'd like you to answer more questions.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

I would just like to add one point about our country’s history, Mr. Van Loan—

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Madam Chair, I'd like an answer to my question. With respect, could you name four of them?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

I'll just finish.

In terms of our country’s history, we have launched another program on innovation.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

That's not my question.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

We wish to celebrate the history of our scientists over the past 150 years. I just wanted to reassure you by saying that history may be told in various ways, by looking at a number of its facets. That is what we do at Canadian Heritage.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Could you name four? Can you name four?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Yes, I can.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

Then let's do that. Could I hear you name four?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Mr. Van Loan, the idea—

April 14th, 2016 / 9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Dan Vandal Liberal Saint Boniface—Saint Vital, MB

Madam Chair, I must say this is truly out of line. What is this?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Order, please.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

I presented facts that show that Canadians don't know their history. I think I'm demonstrating that.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, but Mr. Van Loan, I do not believe that whether the minister can name you four Fathers of Confederation has anything to do with estimates at the moment. You asked her about history. She explained it. You have a minute.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

It goes to the importance of Confederation as the theme for the 150th anniversary of Confederation. Canadians should know who the key figures are. You have Sir John A. Macdonald, and Étienne-Paschal Taché. You have George Brown; you have George-Étienne Cartier. You have Oliver Mowat. They're all up there, right there in front of you. It wasn't that hard.

Could you tell me the three Confederation conference locations?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Mr. Van Loan, I said in particular this has nothing to do with estimates.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Pierre Breton Liberal Shefford, QC

I don’t think this is a trial, Madam Chair.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I would like you to stick to the estimates question, please.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

I think I've made my point that we need a greater focus on history. Canadians need to know more about their history, including all of us around this table. You're not the only one who, if I asked that question, would find it a challenge. That's not unusual.