Evidence of meeting #30 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Andrew Cash  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Independent Music Association
Jay Goldberg  Director, Ontario, Canadian Taxpayers Federation
Sam Norouzi  Vice President and General Manager, ICI Television
Alexie Labelle  Legislative Clerk
Andrea Kokonis  Chief Legal Officer and General Counsel, Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, Mr. Uppal.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tim Uppal Conservative Edmonton Mill Woods, AB

I believe Mrs. Thomas's motion there does refer to the timing of this. When we talk about timing, it's three days before rather than Friday, so it is not a new motion. It just refers to the timing of the initial motion, so it would be an amendment to that motion, changing the time.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you, Mr. Uppal. I think I asked the clerk to rule on this.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Before the clerk does so, it's MP Perkins on a point of order.

I don't think it's appropriate for the chair to put a box around classifying this as a new motion and then asking for an opinion on whether a new motion is in order. I believe the proper question is whether it is actually a substantively different motion or whether it is consistent with the existing motion?

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Mr....

I have no idea whom I'm speaking to. Is it Mr. Patzer, Mr. Perkins or who?

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I introduced myself, as you requested. It's MP Perkins.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you, Mr. Perkins.

I did not know that Mr. Perkins was in the room. Thank you very much.

Clerk, will you please rule? I've asked you to do that.

We will wait until the clerk rules.

4:40 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Alexie Labelle

Madam Chair, if you wouldn't mind suspending, I'm just going to confirm something on my end and then I will be able to advise you.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you. The meeting is suspended.

Would you let me know when you are ready for us to resume? Thank you, Clerk.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Now I will rule on Ms. Thomas's motion.

The motion is admissible because it actually continues to set a deadline for amendments. This is an amendment that is acceptable, and we will now debate the amendment, please.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

On a point of order. It's Chris.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, Chris.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I think perhaps we should suspend the meeting, let these witnesses go, and set it up for the minister to appear.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

We have a motion on the floor, but we must end this meeting. In fact, we're past the time to end this meeting, so you are absolutely right, Mr. Bittle.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I will suspend and ask the witnesses to leave.

Thank you very much, witnesses, for coming. I am so sorry that you were not allowed to continue your testimony and answer questions. I apologize.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

We have the minister here and we shall begin.

Welcome, Minister, to the heritage committee. We're discussing, as you well know, Bill C-11. You have five minutes to present, please, Minister.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

On a point of order, Madam Chair, there's a motion on the floor. The meeting was suspended. The meeting was not ended.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You are absolutely right.

The minister may not be able to begin, because we suspended. We did not adjourn the meeting. We suspended it, and so we have to continue with the business that we were dealing with before the minister arrived or before we began this new session.

We have an amendment on the floor. I would ask everyone to speak to that amendment. I would entertain a list.

Thank you, Clerk.

4:55 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Alexie Labelle

We have Mr. Perkins on the list.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

It's Mr. Perkins. I think the next person on the list was Mr. Julian, no?

4:55 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Alexie Labelle

Since Mrs. Thomas moved her amendment—

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes, so we have a new list. It's Mr. Perkins. Who else? Is it just Mr. Perkins right now?

4:55 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Alexie Labelle

Mrs. Thomas? Did you want to speak with her?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

No, I think Mr. Perkins is on the list and anyone else is free to put up their hand or to say they want to speak.

Mr. Perkins, please begin.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Thank you, Madam Chair.