Evidence of meeting #31 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was study.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
Sometimes YouTube can be used as a substitute for Spotify, for example. We've used that example many times in the past.
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
It has to be commercial content. It's not about going after the content. The CRTC is not interested in what users put.... They're not going to say that this video was good or not good, or it should have more of this or more of that. No. It's just about seeing what qualifies as commercial content, because, at the end of the day, the revenues generated will depend on that.
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Okay.
It's not actually a part of the bill that there would be any sort of dependency on revenue. Now you're introducing that. Is that an amendment you're planning to make to the bill?
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
The bill is totally about contributing to Canadian content.
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Are you saying that a content generator would have to bring in a certain amount of revenue in order to be captured by this bill?
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
No, it doesn't matter how much you make; you'll be captured.
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
No, I think you're listening to whatever you want to listen to.
The bill is very simple. It's about the streamers contributing to Canadian culture. That's what it is. It is about making sure we find those stories online. That's what the bill is all about.
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Minister, if your intention is not to capture individual users, then why don't you take proposed section 4.2 out of the bill altogether and just make that very clear?
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
It's because there's commercial content that does exactly the same on Spotify. You find that content on YouTube and you find it also on Spotify. Sixty-six percent of Canadians go onto YouTube to listen to music. It's an important number there.
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
The CRTC takes the three things. There's revenue, whether you can find it elsewhere, and whether it has a code. They will draw up regulations based on that. That's what people—
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Conservative
Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB
Everything that uses music has a code; so you just said that everything can be captured.
Thank you.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative John Nater
Thank you.
There was an extra 25 seconds, which I will add on to each other first round as well out of fairness.
Mr. Louis, the floor is yours for six minutes.