When we were talking about short-term goals, we were thinking of Kyoto, so it was, let's say, 2010-2012. When you look at many of the measures related to technological innovation, for example, that will be put in place, we cannot expect significant progress to be made in the near future, so we have to look long term, and climate change is a long-term issue. But short term, in our mind, was really dealing with the Kyoto commitment.
On October 3rd, 2006. See this statement in context.