Evidence of meeting #111 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was definition.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Olivier Champagne  Procedural Clerk
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Oh, I'm sorry. I had just wanted to say that I had taken the time.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'll make very clear what I said. I said that on Thursday of this past week, over 400 amendments were dropped on our desk for review. That is a challenging process, especially when you're trying to group definitions and then have them apply throughout the legislation.

Just to be clear, we have done our work on these amendments, but it is a challenging process. My guess is that at the end of the day, we're going to have a less than optimal outcome with this legislation.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Point taken. I appreciate your point. I did not mean to imply that you hadn't taken the time. I know that I had taken the time to look at these particular ones where they came up. All the different amendments that were proposed were exactly the same in terms of their definition of UNDRIP and were just adding extra information. They're not changing the context. They're not changing the meaning. They're just giving information.

I would like to accept that we do these together, and then, going forward, we'll do them individually. Okay?

These are PV-1, PV-2, PV-7, PV-11, PV-13, PV-19, PV-26, PV-61, PV-69, and PV-78.

Shall the amendments carry?

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An hon. member

I'd like a recorded vote.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

We're only voting [Inaudible—Editor]

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Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Just mine.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

It's just on the ones I mentioned. They're just on Elizabeth May's.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Does that mean [Inaudible—Editor] missing?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're voting, okay?

Go ahead—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I don't know if any are missing. It's hard to....

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No: we're not doing yours or the Liberal ones now. We're just doing PV-1, PV-2, PV-7, PV-11, PV-13, PV-19, PV-26, PV-61, PV-69, and PV-78.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'd like to make a suggestion.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

No, seriously, okay? If we can delay the vote on this one—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

On a point of order, Madam Chair, the question has been called, right?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I have called the question for the vote, please. We've had discussion. We've now gone 15 minutes on it, and that's the time I've given to it.

Let's call the vote.

(Amendments negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Now we're back to NDP-1f.

Noon

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Guess what? It's that line 35 of the preamble be amended and replaced with the following:

tion Act, 1982, and by the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, adopted on September 13, 2007, and to fostering reconciliation and

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We've had quite a bit of discussion on this. Is there any further discussion around the table?

Noon

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Mine is slightly different.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I know. I see that.

Noon

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

“and to fostering reconciliation” has been added.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next up is amendment Liberal-2.

Mr. Amos.

Noon

Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

To return to what I was mentioning previously, we are fully supportive of the integration of UNDRIP into this bill. There was some very important testimony brought to us. There are four amendments that I'm bringing that reflect this interest.

LIB-2, which we're looking at right now suggests that we should be referencing UNDRIP in the preamble. LIB-7 would ensure the implementation of the impact assessment act in a way that reflects commitments to the rights of indigenous peoples. LIB-79 would incorporate a reference to UNDRIP in the preamble to the—