I come from British Columbia, where the price on carbon was $30 and it went up to $35. It's no longer revenue-neutral. It's revenue-generated from British Columbia. Emissions in British Columbia—and I've lived there my whole life—were going down, for multiple reasons, but I believe efficiencies were a major factor that helped. Cars, as of 2011, emit way less than what they did pre-2011, along with appliances, and there's the home improvement tax credit and on and on.
Has the carbon tax been effective in British Columbia? The argument here is that it has been. My argument is that it has not been. It has not changed behaviour. But that's my opinion and you have your opinion.
My question for you is this. Right now, at $35 a tonne, it's 112% tax. There's provincial sales tax at 7%, GST at 5%. The carbon tax is 112%. It is 112%, on natural gas.