Environment Committee on Nov. 15th, 2016

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Okay, you know what, it's before, so just on a technicality, you have to ask for it before the results are announced. I did it quite quickly. Unfortunately, I didn't realize there was going to be an issue with it, so I said it very quickly. That was why it's not allowed.

[An hon. member]

We've learned from this lesson, so let's move on.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Absolutely.

Given that I made a comment on the record about how folks voted, I think it's there.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

It's on the record.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I don't want to prolong this at all, but I'll just very briefly move another subamendment to replace “may” with the word “should”.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Hold on. Mr. Choquette had the next step on a subamendment.

Go ahead.

[François Choquette, NDP, Drummond, QC]

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

The subamendment would be after “that he or she considers appropriate, must develop”, where we would add “and implement, in conjunction with provinces and territories” before “a national strategy”.

I'm adding to the amendment, after “must develop”, the words “and implement, in conjunction with provinces and territories”. That answers the problem the Liberals were having with the fact that we need to do it in conjunction with the territories and the provinces.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Okay, I think we all understand what that subamendment is. Do we have any discussion on that subamendment?

I understand why you are proposing it.

[François Choquette, NDP, Drummond, QC]

I am proposing it. If nobody is going to speak on that, I would ask for a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Did anybody else want to say anything on that? I think we've been over the particular reasoning about why that one isn't going to fly.

We will call a vote.

(Subamendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 2)

Mr. Genuis has one more subamendment.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Instead of proposing a subamendment, maybe I'll just ask if there is any point in proposing “the strategy should include”. I wonder if there is a way of meeting halfway and at least trying to strengthen it a bit. I won't bother moving it if there is no interest. Is there a willingness to support even a subtle toughening of the language here?

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

As the writer of the bill, I am content with “may” and with allowing the governments and the different levels to work together to come up with a plan to implement.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I think we could have had a stronger bill, but I'll step back from proposing that subamendment, since it clearly doesn't have a chance of passing.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

All right. That covers the changes to clause 2.

We now need to actually approve clause 2.

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

We have to vote on the amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

I got ahead of myself.

Would you like a recorded vote?

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

I would wait until somebody asks, rather than asking people.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

I will leave it.

First, we'll just do the amendment, and then we have to go to the clause with the amendment.

(Amendment agreed to)

Now we need to do clause 2 as amended.

(Clause 2 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 3)

All right. Now we move to clause 3.

Are there any amendments to clause 3? Do you want to bring anything forward? Does anybody have anything for clause 3? That's “Report to Parliament”.

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

There were two other amendments. I just want to make sure that we are in the right place.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Yes, those come later, on the title. I have nothing in front of me for clause 3 and clause 4.

Okay, if we are ready, we'll vote on clause 3.

(Clause 3 agreed to)

(On clause 4)

Does anybody have anything for clause 4, which is “Review and Report”? I don't see anybody bringing anything forward for clause 4.

(Clause 4 agreed to)

(On clause 1)

Now, we will go back to the short title.

Who would like to bring something forward for the short title?

Please, go ahead.

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

Madam Chair, I move that Bill C-238, in the short title, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 1 with the following:

Safe and Environmentally Sound Disposal of Lamps Containing Mercury Act.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Is there any debate on the short title?

Seeing no debate, all those in favour of the amendment?

(Amendment agreed to)

Thank you for the amendment.

Now I have to call the question on the short title. All those in favour?

(Clause 1 as amended agreed to)

Thank you very much.

Shall the bill as amended—

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

I have another amendment, Madam Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Sorry. Go ahead.

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

I move that Bill C-238 be amended by replacing the long title on page 1 with the following:

An Act respecting the development of a national strategy for the safe and environmentally sound disposal of lamps containing mercury.