Evidence of meeting #70 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was municipalities.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Eric Gagné  Director General, Science and Technology Branch, Department of the Environment
Robert Judge  Director, Sectoral Policy, Office of Infrastructure of Canada
James Van Loon  Director General, Consumer Product Safety Directorate, Healthy Environments and Consumer Safety Branch, Department of Health
Lori MacDonald  Assistant Deputy Minister, Emergency Management and Programs Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Laura Di Paolo  Director General, Program Integration, Office of Infrastructure of Canada
Bogdan Makuc  Director, Program Integration, Office of Infrastructure of Canada
Philip Rizcallah  Director, Building Regulations, National Research Council of Canada
Tim Williams  Committee Researcher

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Eglinski Conservative Yellowhead, AB

Yes.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Too, Wayne and I have to work this out. I've talked to John a bit about this.

The aspect that I'm interested in, frankly, has to do with the private bill as well, and is private property, whereas it's appropriate for Wayne, as our protected areas critic, to do all the parks and government-owned facilities. If you decide that he comes in, maybe we could both just listen, and one of us could ask questions.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes, that's fine. We've been pretty open here to try to move things along.

We don't know if the committee's going to change, but again, I don't want to hold everything back in case it does. I think we should take every opportunity to move forward if we can. Whatever happens, happens. People can read the blues and get the information that we shared at the meeting, so it's not going to be that difficult to have one meeting that they've missed, if we decide that we're going to have him in. We're going to have discussions anyway, and that's all informative.

I guess what I want to ask the committee is, do you want to start on Wednesday discussing heritage, and shall we ask to see...? He may not be available, but is it valuable to get started with him and have a good handle on what he's looking at with his bill?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

I don't think John is available Wednesday anyway.

Are you?

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

If we're sitting, I won't be here.

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Yes, if we're not—

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

I was just going to say that the issue with Peter is that he sits on Canadian Heritage, and they sit at the same time that we do.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Oh. I—

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

He would be in committee unless he's able to.... I don't know if they're sitting on Wednesday.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Eglinski Conservative Yellowhead, AB

Yes.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You're pushing that point.

First off—

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Conservative

Jim Eglinski Conservative Yellowhead, AB

No, it's the first time.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

—let's have a vote on whether we have the meeting or not. I think we have a sense of what we could do if we have the meeting. We could have a further discussion in preparation for our study on the heritage study.

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Is it a free vote or whipped?

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay. All in favour of having a meeting on Wednesday?

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An hon. member

Yes.

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Some hon members

No.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Well, that was easy. That ended that discussion.

There are a couple of things before we go.

You may or may not have noticed, but a little something was put in front of you, which is the response from the government on our “Federal sustainability for future generations” report. It's nice to get that before we go, so have a look at that. The clerk tells me that we don't know exactly where it's going to be posted, but it's likely to be posted somewhere so we can get that.

Something else was just tabled. Protected areas was just tabled as well. That's posted already. It's nice that we have those two things posted. That's pretty good when you think about it, to have both of those up before we rise.

There's one last thing I wanted to ask, and we can go into a closed session. We had our CEPA report tabled, and we did have a dissenting report, and we had a...what did you call it?

5:15 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Supplementary.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We had a supplementary report. It was really good.

I don't know if you guys had any media, any pickup on that. No? Okay.

There was one call, but I didn't get a chance to get back to him before his deadline, so that was that.

5:15 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

There's a lot of media coverage, but none of us are being interviewed.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes, a lot of NGOs were out there talking about it and saying good things. I don't know if anybody has anything to say about it, but this is the opportunity to talk if you want to about the report and supplementary and dissenting reports.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

I have something to say in camera.