Evidence of meeting #89 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was right.
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NDP
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
Okay. I need to do that again.
(Clause 5 as amended agreed to on division)
(On clause 6)
Next up, we have amendment LIB-2. We're on clause 6 now.
Amendments LIB-2 and NDP-5 are similar. They're distinct, but they replace the same part of the act, so we're just going to work on making sure as you move forward that if you do adopt LIB-2, then NDP-5 cannot be moved. Let's just make sure we understand how that goes.
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NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
It's my understanding that whatever amendment is tabled first is considered first.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
—but it goes line by line. We just went through this on the earlier one, right?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
It's a line, right? We're looking at the line. It's the way it's coming forward, right? One is amending a certain line. You're amending a different line.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
I think that's the only way we can follow along anyway. If we start jumping around—
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
It's going to be difficult.
Do you want to clarify, Olivier, if you think I don't have it clear?
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A voice
Yes.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC
Quite simply, this is about aligning the commissioner's role with the requirement in Bill C-57 that each target be measurable and that there be a time frame. It was made clear to us yesterday that the commissioner already has the intention of being able to review principles, but we wanted to make it abundantly clear that what was required was a demonstration of a measurable target and a time frame.
This allows us.... I'll reference the later motion, the NDP's fifth amendment. It stays squarely within the frame of the audit function, which is to have measurable targets, to be able to report on those, and to have a time frame which can be reported upon, but in engaging in a sort of future-oriented, policy-oriented analysis. It brings the commissioner further outside that audit sphere. My thinking is that it is squarely within the commissioner's function to be looking at time-bound and measurable measures.
