Evidence of meeting #89 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was right.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Champagne  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons
Paula Brand  Director General, Sustainability Directorate, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of the Environment
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Thomas Bigelow

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

—to my legislative clerk, and he will help us out.

Go ahead. You can speak into the mike and give us guidance.

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Olivier Champagne

Okay.

If you look at page 1 of the bill, you see there are three subclauses in clause 1.

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Yes.

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Olivier Champagne

When we adopted clause 1, we adopted all those three subclauses.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

It was all three.

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Olivier Champagne

Right now we're in clause 3, which is on page 2—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I have a point of order. That is not the way we've been doing it. I think we need to get unanimity on this.

8:55 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Let's not challenge the—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm not challenging. I'm just asking for clarification.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Hold on. The legislative—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Let me finish. I have the floor.

As the chair has been doing, she's been going through each piece of these. We need to decide if we're going to go through each piece of each clause or if we are going to vote on the whole clause. It's important, because as we proceed—for example, under “Principles”—I think we're going to want individual discussions.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That's where we're going to get into detail.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

What you've done is you've gone bit by bit. I'm not sure people realize yet that they were also voting for the “Purpose”. I don't think there are any objections, but—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Go ahead, Olivier.

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Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Olivier Champagne

When there's no amendment on the clause, we vote on the complete clause. When there are amendments on the clause, we open the clause and we consider the amendments as they amend the clause line by line.

The first amendment to amend clause 3 is LIB-1. Then we'll consider NDP-1 after LIB-1. After we consider all the amendments on clause 3, we will vote on clause 3 as amended or not.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's different from what we've been doing.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

When you say “what we've been doing”, I'm not sure—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Because....

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We've been doing, where?—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Because you read out—

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Yes.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

—“Minister means”, and we voted.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm just asking which way we are going to do it. Are we going to vote all on clause 1, or are we going to vote on it piece by piece?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay. I think I confused you by the way I did it.