Evidence of meeting #90 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was regulations.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Champagne  Procedural Clerk, Journals Branch, House of Commons
Matt Jones  Assistant Deputy Minister, Pan-Canadian Framework Implementation Office , Department of the Environment
Joyce Henry  Director General, Office of Energy Efficiency, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Frank DesRosiers  Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Energy Technology Sector, Department of Natural Resources
John Moffet  Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Matt Parry  Director General, Strategic Policy Directorate, Department of the Environment

8:50 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Actually, I have a point of order on that. I would appreciate Mr. Amos and yourself writing another letter apologizing for excluding my name from that letter.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay. First off, it's not committee business. It was a mistake to distribute it here in committee time. That will not happen again, I hope.

We'll discuss it outside and—

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Madam Chair, with respect, when something is distributed here at the table while a meeting is going on and the meeting has not been adjourned, it now becomes committee business and is subject to discussion, and a challenge, if warranted. Ms. Duncan is right, if she didn't receive a copy of that letter...although I think Mr. Amos broadly circulated it and—

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Exactly. My comment wasn't to say she shouldn't have it, she has it several times.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

No, but she has a right to receive it—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Sure.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

—more formally, I think, because it was formally circulated at our meeting, even though it wasn't part of existing committee—

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

If Ms. Duncan wasn't here, who was here?

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Her representative.

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An hon. member

Wayne Stetski.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

[Inaudible—Editor] in heritage.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Right, but if you have a substitute on the committee and something is distributed in an informal sense at the committee table, it's up to your substitute to make sure that you get that information. If it is something that is officially part of the correspondence of the committee, then the clerk and/or the chair will distribute that in the official capacity in which it happens.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay, Linda, I'll let—

8:50 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I want to speak. I'm not trying to be obstreperous about this; I'm simply curious, okay? Something was circulated to everybody. I don't know what it was, and I'd appreciate receiving it. I'm not saying my rights have been violated; I'm saying that something was circulated and I'm interested in what it was. Now that I discover it was a request to sign onto the letter, I did sign on through my member of the committee, and yet my name was still removed from the letter. So I'm asking the two who submitted that to the government, please write again and say, “We, by mistake, excluded Linda Duncan's name.” That's all.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay. I'd really like to wrap this up because I'd like to move on to the purpose of the meeting, which is clause-by-clause study. We have every right to bring forward a motion, and so we will address that when we come back.

All right—

8:55 a.m.

Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

—we're good, and outside we'll do what we need to discuss with Linda.

All right, thank you.

We had finished clause 8, and we are now on clause 9.

(On clause 9)

I see there has been a motion brought forward.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

An amendment.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

An amendment.

Mike Bossio.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Madam Chair and committee, I'd like to amend clause 9 by replacing line 35, on page 7, with the following:

relating to sustainable development, or of both Houses of Parlia-

I mean “Parliament”, if you finish the word. This would be consistent with what was replaced in proposed section10.1 in clause 8.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

It's for consistency in the report.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

It's for consistency purposes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Is there any discussion?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

So this is a new suggestion.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

It is, correct, and I can raise it now as well. After passing that, we had noticed that there were other areas that we should have been consistent with in the document and weren't. I will bring those up as well and beg for the committee to consider unanimously supporting those changes as well, but we'll deal with this change first.