Evidence of meeting #38 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Vincent Ngan  Director General, Horizontal Policy, Engagement and Coordination, Department of the Environment
John Moffet  Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Angela Crandall
Émilie Thivierge  Legislative Clerk

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Thank you, Ms. Pauzé.

Mr. Redekopp, you have the floor.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, I just want to clarify this. The wording in this is “independent expert committee”. I believe Madam Pauzé modified that wording as she introduced this motion. Could I just have what the revised wording is going to be and in what locations it is, just so I'm clear on what we're voting on?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Basically, as I understand it, Madam Pauzé has introduced a subamendment to her amendment.

You're changing the wording of your amendment a little bit? Is that right, Ms. Pauzé?

6:25 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes, because the term “independent expert committee” wasn't used. I don't know if the term “advisory body” in Bill C‑12 or the “Net‑Zero Advisory Body”, in NDP‑4, were chosen.

Is “Net‑Zero Advisory Group” the new name for this committee? What will it be called? I know that the name “independent expert committee” wasn't chosen. I'm sure of that.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Further to my question, do we need a subamendment or do we need a new copy? How does this work?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Ms. Pauzé, you don't need to send it to the clerk. It's just the name that is changing.

Mr. Albas, you have the floor.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I was just going to say, Mr. Chair, that you've recently, in other cases of subamendments, asked for members to supply those to the clerk. I was going to ask if you would require that now.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

No, the legislative clerk says it's not necessary. She's just changing....

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

It does seem a bit arbitrary, but is it literally using the language that was found in NDP-4?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I believe so.

Is that correct, Madam Clerk?

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

That's not entirely clear.

6:25 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Émilie Thivierge

Yes, so in French it would be “organisme consultatif” and in English it would be the “advisory body” must make recommendations.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's to be consistent with—

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

In French it's “le Groupe consultatif pour la carboneutralité”, isn't it?

6:25 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Émilie Thivierge

If we go to NDP-4, at the bottom, proposed subclause 20(1.1), you see, “L'organisme consultatif”. That's the wording we would be using. I think that Ms. Pauzé moved—

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I'm sorry to interrupt, Madam Clerk, but in proposed subclause 20(1) it has, “le Groupe consultatif pour la carboneutralité”.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Which one is it?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's “Net‑Zero Advisory Group”. Is that right, Ms. Thivierge?

6:25 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Émilie Thivierge

We can use this one, yes.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Right now there are two different.... There's what is written down in proposed subclause 20(1.1) and in proposed subclause 20(1).

6:25 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Émilie Thivierge

Yes, proposed subclause 20(1.1) refers to proposed subclause 20(1).

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Okay, but we are going to go ahead, in Madam Pauzé's amendment, with that. Are we going to vote on this, Mr. Chair, or are you going to seek unanimous consent to do that?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Madam Thivierge, do we need unanimous consent for this?

6:25 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Émilie Thivierge

No, we don't, because when Madam Pauzé moved her amendment she mentioned that she was going to change the wording. That's what she did, and she's entitled to do that.