Evidence of meeting #32 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.
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11:15 a.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
Right, because we agree that members of Parliament are not public office holders.
11:15 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
--as opposed to adding the phrase “who are public office holders”. Okay. So we're going to drop the word “Conservative”, and the words “members of Parliament” are going to be replaced by “public office holders, past and present”.
11:15 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Just so that the members will understand, the motion that was moved by Madam--
11:15 a.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
Chair, you missed one part of my subamendment. That is, that you remove the words “Conservative Party“ from “logo of the Conservative Party“ and just put “any party”. That does not exclude the discussion.
11:15 a.m.
Bloc
11:15 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
I will get to it; there's no hurry here. I want to make sure we have the correct wording. It's important.
The changes I will consider to be one compound motion for the three items. Where we are right now is that the subamendment now takes precedence over all other things. So we deal with the subamendment in relation to the original motion. It has nothing to do with Mr. Siksay's; that has not been dealt with yet. We're dealing with the original motion, changed only by these three elements that are included in the subamendment.
11:20 a.m.
Bloc
11:20 a.m.
Bloc
Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC
Thank you for listening to me. I would like the clerk to enlighten us on one point. Can we proceed with a second subamendment if a first subamendment has already been introduced? I would like to get that information before continuing.
11:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
You can have an amendment and a subamendment; you cannot have a second subamendment.
11:20 a.m.
Bloc
Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC
I've already introduced a subamendment. That's been the subject of my point of order since earlier. I've been making a point of order on this subject for five minutes.
11:20 a.m.
Bloc
11:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
I heard your debate. I'm sorry, Madame, but I did not hear “I would like to move the following subamendment”. I did not hear that.
11:20 a.m.
Bloc
Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC
Yes, I moved a subamendment that Mr. Siksay's part be deleted.
11:20 a.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
I did not hear it, but we can resolve this.
Mrs. Freeman's intervention was basically that she would not like to have the last element of Mr. Siksay's motion, to wait until after the Ethics Commissioner made her decision and maybe investigated. It would be to add that phrase “who are public office holders” and also to add the words “and attribute”, so use “and attribution”.
I always like to keep harmony within the committee as much as possible. The member is telling me that her intent was that that was a subamendment and therefore I could not receive a further subamendment from Mr. Poilievre. So what I propose to do is to stand down your subamendment temporarily.