Evidence of meeting #12 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was charity.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ian Shugart  Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
Gina Wilson  Deputy Minister, Diversity and Inclusion and Youth, Department of Canadian Heritage
Benoît Robidoux  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Employment and Social Development
Mary Dawson  As an Individual

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

I was there.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Did someone else say it?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

Madam Chair, this is a lengthier answer, but I recall the conversation in regard to their advancing and sharing their unsolicited proposal. I listened to it.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

No, that's not my question. My question is about whether the word “volunteer” was spoken.

Was youth service mentioned?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

Youth service is top of line for me.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Okay, so that's a yes.

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

We brought in the Canada service corps in 2018.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes or no...?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

Madam Chair, I think it's important that since I am—

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes or no...?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

—wanting to provide accurate information, that I provide all the information I have.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rachael Thomas

Minister, thank you. I do understand that, but the question that has been asked of you is quite simple. It is really a yes or no question. You need to respect the member who's asking you that question and answer accordingly. Thank you.

Minister, yes or no?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

I would say that “service opportunities” was said, yes.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Okay, good. Now we're getting somewhere. This was just five days before the Canada student service grant was announced and given its name.

Of course, that grant wasn't mentioned because it wasn't created at the time of your meeting, but did you speak about anything at all other than the Kielburgers' social entrepreneurship proposal, anything at all, yes or no?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

I would have definitely asked how the youth that they were working with were doing in the face of the pandemic.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Did the Kielburgers know that the Prime Minister would make an announcement only days later, on April 22, regarding youth programming?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

I cannot speak for the Kielburgers. I personally did not know on April 17 that the Prime Minister would be making that announcement.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Okay, so you didn't know, even though you're the minister responsible for that announcement—strange.

How many staff attended that meeting with you and the Kielburgers?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

Madam Chair, for clarification, is he referring to my team or from the...?

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Yes.

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

I was the only person on the phone call from my team, because it was in regard to an unsolicited proposal.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Okay. Were there any officials?

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

From my team, no. I made the phone call.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

It was just a phone call, two people.

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Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

From my team, it was me. From the WE organization it was Craig Kielburger, and I believe Sofia was on the phone with us. He would know if there were other people from their side. It was a phone number they provided for me to dial into.