Evidence of meeting #26 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

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2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Minister, thank you for joining us today.

Have you talked to Ben Chin about his role in shaping the CSSG, yes or no?

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

No.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Have you talked to Rick Theis about his role in the CSSG, yes or no?

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I did speak with Mr. Theis to make sure that I could answer all of the questions.

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Liberal

Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC

I have a point of order, Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

On a point of order, Mrs. Shanahan.

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Brenda Shanahan Liberal Châteauguay—Lacolle, QC

I'm sorry to interrupt, Chair, but the order before us is regarding the activities of Mr. Theis and no other person, and so we should remain within the context of the motion before us.

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

That's not a point of order. It's a point of interference.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

I think that's a point of debate.

We'll turn back to Mr. Barrett.

Mr. Barrett.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Has Rick Theis been contacted by the RCMP about his role in the CSSG?

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Not that I know of.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

When was the last time that you spoke to Mr. Theis?

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Yesterday. I called him yesterday to make sure that I would have all the answers, because I would be here as the minister responsible, and I'm here to answer for Mr. Theis.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Has he been contacted by an officer of Parliament about his role in the CSSG?

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

About what?

No, not that I know of.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Has Ben Chin been contacted by the RCMP about his role in shaping the CSSG?

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

I have a point of order, Chair.

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I am here to discuss Mr. Theis.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

On a point of order, Mr. Sorbara.

2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Thank you, Chair.

Chair, thank you for your work today because I know the circumstances are extenuating.

I do wish to challenge that. My honourable colleague, Mr. Barrett, is going down...asking questions regarding Mr. Chin. We're here to speak about—

2:50 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

That's not a point of order.

2:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

I'm trying to hear the point of order.

Mr. Sorbara, I'll allow you to get to the point of order.

2:50 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Today's discussion is regarding Mr. Theis. Minister Rodriguez is here answering the questions about that individual, and not about any other individual.

2:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

The study before the House is considerably broader than that, and so we will not limit the minister with regard to testimony he may be able to provide with regard to the investigation on pandemic spending, lobbying and the remainder of the study.

We will turn back to Mr. Barrett.

2:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

The question to the minister was if Ben Chin had been contacted by the RCMP about his role in shaping the Canada student service grant.