Evidence of meeting #6 for Finance in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was budget.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Gordon  National President, Public Service Alliance of Canada
Chief Lucien Wabanonik  Grand Chief of the Anishnabeg Nation, Assembly of First Nations of Quebec and Labrador
Gilbert Whiteduck  Chief, Kitigan Zibi Anishinabeg, Assembly of First Nations of Quebec and Labrador
Michèle Asselin  President, Fédération des femmes du Québec
François Roy  Representative, Front d'action populaire en réaménagement urbain
Geoffrey Grenville-Wood  General Counsel, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada
Pierre Beauchamp  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Real Estate Association
David Bradley  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Trucking Alliance
Pierre Patry  Treasurer, Confédération des syndicats nationaux
Guy Chevrette  President and Chief Executive Officer, Quebec Forest Industry Council
David Paradis  President, Quebec Federation of University Students
Ian Boyko  Government Relations Coordinator, Canadian Federation of Students
Claire Morris  President and Chief Executive Officer, Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada
Michel Vincent  Director, Economics and Markets, Quebec Forest Industry Council
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean-François Pagé

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

That is why I asked the question. Thank you very much.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Merci, Monsieur Pacetti.

Thank you all for coming in today, for your presentations, for your responses to our questions.

Members, we will suspend for a couple of minutes. You can say goodbye to the witnesses, and then we will go to some committee business immediately thereafter. We do have to approve the budget, and we have a motion by Mr. Mulcair.

I will suspend for about a minute.

Thank you.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Members, we have a motion by Mr. Mulcair.

First of all, I just want to deal with the operational budget. We have an operational budget request. I hope all members have a copy of this. The amount requested is $20,900. Will someone move this?

1 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

I so move.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. McKay moves that we adopt the budget.

Mr. Pacetti, do you have a question on the budget?

1 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

I think it's the same question I always have. It's just basically where do we get the amounts from, the $1,500 for Toronto, the $1,700 for Quebec, and the $300 for Montreal? I think the $300 is reasonable, because you can cycle here or you can even cross-country ski here, but I'm not sure why the Toronto rate is at $1,500 and Quebec is at $1,700. I'd hate to see people coming from out west or up north and how much they're allocated.

How much of this do we expect to be spent for the hearings?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We don't have any witnesses coming from outside of these three centres or from Ottawa. In terms of why they chose the number $1,500 for Toronto, I'm not sure.

Do you want to address that?

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Jean-François Pagé

It could be less than that. They pay their own expenses and we reimburse them. So we don't know how much it's going to cost. That's the usual practice.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

How much are the other committees approving for Toronto and Quebec? Is this the House, or is this a figure that has come up between the chairman and the clerk?

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

No, it's our financial officer, the logistical officer, who deals with that.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

So this is what the other committees are approving as well. How much of this are we expecting to spend?

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

We have seven witnesses from Toronto and three from Quebec.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

And all the witnesses submit claims?

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

They are entitled to. I don't know if they will.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

But based on your experience...?

1:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes, they do.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Are there any further questions or discussion on the budget?

Mr. Menzies.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

Just as long as this is standard practice.... But I do need to remind the chair that when I was a private citizen and I used to travel here from Alberta, I did so at my own expense because I felt it was important.

1:05 p.m.

An hon. member

You cross-country-skied.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

No, I paid for air fare, because it would take many days to get here by cross-country skis.

How long has this been a standing practice?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We have a routine motion--as does, I assume, every single committee before the House--to cover the expenses of witnesses. The motion the committee voted for---

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

How far back can I submit expenses?

1:05 p.m.

A voice

You have 60 days.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

I just wanted that point out there.